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Hi all,

Does anyone know a supplier for (or know what is included in) the PRD-approved spill kit now required for 2003 ?

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Where to get: go to fastrack section of prorally at scca.org. there's a notice that lists two suppliers and prices.

What's included: I have no idea.

Anders

Edit: I can't spell, and that crazy Canadian is one minute faster than me! ;)
 

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You can also contact Mad Mike. He had them for sale at 100AW.

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>You can also contact Mad Mike. He had them for sale at
>100AW.

Those were the Gator kits Mike had. He'll probably refer you to them. The free replacement offer seems like a good deal.

Several organizers have expressd an interest in buying the big kits for their sweep teams.

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Hmmmm...I really have to start getting all responses from the national office in writing. At PRI I was told it would amount to "a few squares of paper towel in a ziploc baggie" and it would not have to be mounted because "it will be so thin you can sit on it."

ch-ch-ch-changes...
 

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>Hmmmm...I really have to start getting all responses from
>the national office in writing. At PRI I was told it would
>amount to "a few squares of paper towel in a ziploc baggie"
>and it would not have to be mounted because "it will be so
>thin you can sit on it."

Come on, Lurch...even YOU can't believe that would handle the required two gallons. It isn't very big, and it's really light...zip ties would certainly handle it. And they WORK...Doug reports an eye-opening demonstration...

Bruce
 

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>Hmmmm...I really have to start getting all responses from
>the national office in writing. At PRI I was told it would
>amount to "a few squares of paper towel in a ziploc baggie"
>and it would not have to be mounted because "it will be so
>thin you can sit on it."
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>ch-ch-ch-changes...

Gator® Emergency Response Kits

Emergency Response Kits are equipped with all the critical elements needed to contain a spill within the first few minutes of a spill. There are four Emergency Response Kits of various sizes. Two are designed as vehicular spill kits that easily fit behind or under a seat for quick access to contain a small spill within minutes. The other two are designed as industrial spill kits adequate for an emergency response team to contain a spill within the first few minutes.

SMALL KIT- "Behind the Seat" Vehicle Spill Kits (VHSK):

Absorbs up to 8-10 gallons

1 - Small nylon bag
1 - Pair chemical gloves

1 - 5# container of absorbent
1 - Dust mask

2 - 4" x 4' absorbent socks
1 - Protective goggles

25 - 18" x 18" absorbent pads
1 - Disposal bags

1 - 10 oz. Plug N' Dike
1 - Ties

1 - Assorted wood plugs
1 - Instructions

1 - Dust pan with broom
 

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>Hmmmm...I really have to start getting all responses from
>the national office in writing. At PRI I was told it would
>amount to "a few squares of paper towel in a ziploc baggie"
>and it would not have to be mounted because "it will be so
>thin you can sit on it."
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>ch-ch-ch-changes...
Hey thanks Lurch for being the one to broach the subject of yet another mandated requirement to be carried by every car for _potential_ problems which seems so typical shot-gun approach or maybe a "play to the galleries" pre-emptive thing done to justify something but maybe not meeting any real need which might better be met by a slightly larger version of the kits to be carried by the sweep vehicles.

Since it is rule now I guess we are supposed to accept it since the guys who make up rules are clearly able to see with more more insight all th problems besetting us tahn anybody else, but has there beeen a big problem with cars spilling hydro-carbon in the wood in other than roll-over where the car remains for some length of time?

seems like to me that's the most imaginable way spills would occur and seems like at time of recovery, or when sweep arrives or the report is recieved that a car's sitting on it's roof is when a kit would be needed, and as I sorta meekly suggested, a kit a bit bigger than capable of recovering 2 gallon might be needed, if in fact this is a real issue.
Is it?

Red cross kit
Hazmat kit
Catalytic converters

Re this: Require crews who flip and stay to report the milage where they stayed upside down and if they have spilled naughty fluids during the flip (from the CAR!!! The roll of Loo-paper and the spare shorts in the co-drivers black bag covers THAT other Hazard!)


And see right there is maybe a burning need for another rule!!

What should be done with the shorts that are made hazardous during the event? How should they be handled? Should they be incinerated and the ashes carried in a zip lock bag (marked in the reccomended De-Rusto OSHA GREEN pn 8967)?

And Bruce , before you come back with some groaning about folks complaining about rules, when I have seen cars flip right in front of me in the woods (HI ! Dick Furhman!!! tee hee) and been right on the scene, my first concern is the potential injuries to the folks inside, second is the oncoming traffic whacking into the car and ME as I have been standing there, third is fire danger from ignition switched on (shocking how many people leave the ignition ON!!).
In the normal course of the car sitting upside down the is inevitably some dripping and drooling of fluids but it seems to me it is when the car is righted is when the bigger spills occur but then the crap is running all over the place and the eventual drips are all also over the place , not in convienient pools on sealed asphalt or concrete surfaces.

Is this really going to be an effective thing in the woods?






John Vanlandingham
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>Is this really going to be an effective thing in the woods?
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Yes. If SCCA hadn't required it, the organizers & various governmental agencies would have. These kits work. Any competitor who claims he(she) never left any bad stuff in the woods hasn't been running long(or may be playing fast & loose with the truth). I've seen a demonstration of the kits. They are cheap and effective.
 

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No, I think at the time the rule was still under development perhaps. I was just trying to be proactive and have that aspect of my car 2003 compliant for SnoDrift.

No matter. I am glad the kits work, are worthwhile, and small/easy to package. Just didn't want to pay 40 bucks for 3 pcs of paper towel and a ziploc... Sorry if the other post came off as a bit bitchy.
 

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Ok I can see the value in getting venues, and to that end the idea of having a larger one in the sweep or recovery vehicles woundn't be a bad thing.
Might be interesting to ses the things soak up schtuff out of the soil.



John Vanlandingham
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According to Gator, yes, it can absorb stuff out of the soil or at least on the soil. But I am only quoting. I have not tried it yet or done any independent research. Deep sand as over around the Carolinas might be another question. Also, the Gator product supposedly renders the spill biodegradable.
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>Gator® Emergency Response Kits
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>SMALL KIT- "Behind the Seat" Vehicle Spill Kits (VHSK):
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>Absorbs up to 8-10 gallons
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I believe Gator has a special kit, made just for the SCCA requirements, that doesn't have all this stuff. Tell them what you want it for, or ask Mad Mike. The kit Mike had certainly didn't include a broom and dustpan...

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how best to mount the kit?

I got the kit from LabSafety; it comes in a 4.25" dia, approx 24" long PVC tube. If I zip tie it to a roll cage member, would that pass tech?

- Felix
 

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Gator SCCA Kit WAS $30.00 delivered...in February.

Contact Don Stephens 1-800-755-3119 "Rally Ditributing" Tulsa OK

Where'd the $40 kit show up??

Is the PRD changing the rules again??
 

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First, I just got off the phone with Don, he has the kits in stock and the shipping weight is about 4-5 Lbs.

Second, after serious consideration, I decided to get back to the drawing board and design the CarbonFiberKitchenSink. You never know what the powers to be would require next.

Very frankly speaking I fail to understand why an organization which banned FIA homologated bolt-in cages and legalized welding the bolt-in cages (a sacrilage punishable with God knows what by FIA)is being so particular about the HazMat Kit. Do they mean "We don't give a rats ass about your safety as long as you clean up after your mess" ?

Cheers

M.Samli

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