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Is there a first aid kit that is available that completely meets the new rule?
If so what is the brand and what is the part number?
Thanks,
Chris
If so what is the brand and what is the part number?
Thanks,
Chris
Where to get First Aid kits
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ACP and I have talked about putting these together but just haven't gotten to it. All the equipment required (except for some sort of bag or case) is available from Gall supply, on the web at www.gall.com. The collection of stuff including a bag isn't terribly expensive. If there is sufficient interest, I'll order a bunch of stuff and put these together, they'll be around $30 each (depends on if I can wangle any quantity discounts); and, I can't promise I'll have them by SnoDrift; heck, I might not even have the rally car ready yet.
BerylAnn, you reading here?
BerylAnn, you reading here?
That's www.galls.com (note the "S")....sorry.
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I thought I remembered SCCA saying they were going to make them available. Or was that only the spill kits?
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Which REI first kit are you referring to?
I have the Adventure Medical Day Tripper kit sold by REI (sold by them for $36) and it only has 1 ABD pad (2 are required), no space blankets, no 4" ACE wrap, no SAM splint and no, uh, duct tape. It has bandage scissors that would probably cut seat belts, but it won't cut a penny.
Also, as far as I have seen, none of the kits sold by REI have a Red Cross on the outside as required by 6.4.17.b. (Personally, I like the first aid kit and fire extinguisher stickers on the outside of the car required in Canada.)
On a related topic -
In our car that rolled at Ramada Express, we had two first ait kits. One was a conventional automotive first aid kit in a hard box that was attached to the chassis and the other was a Day Tripper kit which is in a soft canvas zip-up bag. We strapped the Day Tripper to the roll cage behind the seats in our other rally car that does not have a hard box first aid kit, but just left it loose under the seat in the car we ran at Ramada since it wasn't the primary first aid kit.
The hard box kit was closed and latched when we started the stage. When I went looking for a bandage after we rolled the car, the hard box kit was open and almost empty. Either the force of the accident opened the box up or something inside the car hit the box. The Day Tripper kit was thrown from the car.
I am sure there is a lesson in there somewhere.
alan perry
I have the Adventure Medical Day Tripper kit sold by REI (sold by them for $36) and it only has 1 ABD pad (2 are required), no space blankets, no 4" ACE wrap, no SAM splint and no, uh, duct tape. It has bandage scissors that would probably cut seat belts, but it won't cut a penny.
Also, as far as I have seen, none of the kits sold by REI have a Red Cross on the outside as required by 6.4.17.b. (Personally, I like the first aid kit and fire extinguisher stickers on the outside of the car required in Canada.)
On a related topic -
In our car that rolled at Ramada Express, we had two first ait kits. One was a conventional automotive first aid kit in a hard box that was attached to the chassis and the other was a Day Tripper kit which is in a soft canvas zip-up bag. We strapped the Day Tripper to the roll cage behind the seats in our other rally car that does not have a hard box first aid kit, but just left it loose under the seat in the car we ran at Ramada since it wasn't the primary first aid kit.
The hard box kit was closed and latched when we started the stage. When I went looking for a bandage after we rolled the car, the hard box kit was open and almost empty. Either the force of the accident opened the box up or something inside the car hit the box. The Day Tripper kit was thrown from the car.
I am sure there is a lesson in there somewhere.
alan perry
IMHO, the first aid kits should be in a zip bag in a standardized location in the rally car. Preferably velcroed to the cage so it can easily be removed.
Regarding content, the typical Bandaids and merthiolate are useless. The only things required are items necessary for a lay person (i.e. no medical or nursing training) to safely use to provide whatever stabilization and comfort are possible until the ambulance arrives. While I have one or two specific issues with the current (2003) requirement, it is a requirement based upon recommendations from one of this country's leading emergency departments / trauma centers.
Now, we need to complement a reasonable kit with mandatory training in its use....
Regarding content, the typical Bandaids and merthiolate are useless. The only things required are items necessary for a lay person (i.e. no medical or nursing training) to safely use to provide whatever stabilization and comfort are possible until the ambulance arrives. While I have one or two specific issues with the current (2003) requirement, it is a requirement based upon recommendations from one of this country's leading emergency departments / trauma centers.
Now, we need to complement a reasonable kit with mandatory training in its use....
Hello,
You should also be able to take the list to your local pharmacy, home health, or discount place (such as WalMart) and find most, if not all, of the items. That was a point that I made very clear when the list was being formulated.
The penny-cutter scissors are also commonly referred to as "trauma shears", or "EMT scissors". They are not "bandage scissors", which are sleak, thin, scissors made to cut bandages, not thick clothing, straps, etc like the trauma shears are.
Other than Galls (or DynaMed, same company), there are many suppliers via the internet such as Emergency Medical Products (out of WI - also quick & inexpensive from my experience), Lab Safety Supply, Alliance Medical, Armstrong Medical, etc. A search using "EMS Supplies" brings up many options.
Lyn
You should also be able to take the list to your local pharmacy, home health, or discount place (such as WalMart) and find most, if not all, of the items. That was a point that I made very clear when the list was being formulated.
The penny-cutter scissors are also commonly referred to as "trauma shears", or "EMT scissors". They are not "bandage scissors", which are sleak, thin, scissors made to cut bandages, not thick clothing, straps, etc like the trauma shears are.
Other than Galls (or DynaMed, same company), there are many suppliers via the internet such as Emergency Medical Products (out of WI - also quick & inexpensive from my experience), Lab Safety Supply, Alliance Medical, Armstrong Medical, etc. A search using "EMS Supplies" brings up many options.
Lyn
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