Where is 25-50+ miles of Tarmac
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Use your imagination.
Partitioned city or village streets like Rally de Quebec and Charlevoix were awesome (and Rallye St Agathe still is) by bringing the rally to the spectators, unlike forest rallies where the spectators must trek into the woods.
Then there is always http://www.tailofthedragon.com
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Partitioned city or village streets like Rally de Quebec and Charlevoix were awesome (and Rallye St Agathe still is) by bringing the rally to the spectators, unlike forest rallies where the spectators must trek into the woods.
Then there is always http://www.tailofthedragon.com
http://www.tailofthedragon.com/maps/postermap2003.gif
"state hwy" sounds ;ike it might be too fast...
Need a road that will allows rally cars to average under 60 mph or so, think about the roads the WRC runs on, lane and a half, lots of hairpins...
The road you suggest could be perfect, just want to double check the details
Need a road that will allows rally cars to average under 60 mph or so, think about the roads the WRC runs on, lane and a half, lots of hairpins...
The road you suggest could be perfect, just want to double check the details
I actually thought the Rim tarmac stages were really cool...don't know how many are up there though...
The roads were extremely twisty of course, with basically all the turns banked, lots of hairpins, lots of drop-offs, elevation change, etc.
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Alex
The roads were extremely twisty of course, with basically all the turns banked, lots of hairpins, lots of drop-offs, elevation change, etc.
Thanks,
Alex
Sorry, I already organize one spectator/resident intensive event. Its a whole new ballgame to go after a city location, and in the US it would need to look like multiple street circuits. (Think of Monaco, Long Beach, only 25+ miles of armco.)
I am not saying it could not be done.
So what city in the US would be a likely candidate to allow numerous streets to be closed?
What city has so many narrow, twisty roads that it would offer a possibility?
I have a great imagination, I looking for realistic, specific opportunities.
I am not saying it could not be done.
So what city in the US would be a likely candidate to allow numerous streets to be closed?
What city has so many narrow, twisty roads that it would offer a possibility?
I have a great imagination, I looking for realistic, specific opportunities.
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How about the roads around snoeshoe west virginia....They are already embracing the new gravel rally in september and have some of the best twisty tarmac on the planet.
In the Alsea district of the Siuslaw National Forest, here in Oregon, there is a large network of logging roads between highway 34 and 126. A few of them are paved, including two through routes from 34 to 126. When I say they are logging roads that are paved, I mean it. They remind me of roads I've seen in Ireland. I had to crawl my Rabbit over slash piles on top of chips protecting the pavement in active logging operations (I was last out there on Thanksgiving) -- 'bout a car-and-a-half wide, very tight and twisty.
There's at least 50 miles and probably more of these tiny little roads. The road density in the area is such that for a gravel rally, you could use the pavement for transits/spectator-worker access, and for a pavement rally, the reverse.
Haven't been brave enough to walk into the Siuslaw Forest main office, sad since I live about a quarter mile from it.
The Oregon Rally Group is establishing a relationship with the Mt. Hood NF, so national forest isn't impossible to get into. Given the road repair and fire-season stress the group deals with normally, a tarmac rally in the cool months should be an easy addition, organization-wise. It's mostly a nut check for walking into the forester office. They shrivel up so small. Like raisins.
If I lived closer to Goldendale WA, I'd be talking to them already. Goldendale is desperate for an event, we just need someone to organize it. There might be some hillclimb-like tarmac in that area.
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There's at least 50 miles and probably more of these tiny little roads. The road density in the area is such that for a gravel rally, you could use the pavement for transits/spectator-worker access, and for a pavement rally, the reverse.
Haven't been brave enough to walk into the Siuslaw Forest main office, sad since I live about a quarter mile from it.
The Oregon Rally Group is establishing a relationship with the Mt. Hood NF, so national forest isn't impossible to get into. Given the road repair and fire-season stress the group deals with normally, a tarmac rally in the cool months should be an easy addition, organization-wise. It's mostly a nut check for walking into the forester office. They shrivel up so small. Like raisins.
If I lived closer to Goldendale WA, I'd be talking to them already. Goldendale is desperate for an event, we just need someone to organize it. There might be some hillclimb-like tarmac in that area.
andy
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Viva la ProleRalliat!
State highway in name only. Last time I travelled the road, it took me roughly 55 minutes to travel the approx 22 miles. I move along and don't waste any time. Running a rally on the road might be a challenge as there is just 1 road and it would have to be back and forth but it is such a great road.
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If the highway can't be had, maybe some surrounding areas.
If the highway can't be had, maybe some surrounding areas.
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not in the usa, but in between whistler and cache creek british columbia is one of the best tarmac roads i have ever seen.
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121 east out of Sonoma, or 50 west of Pueblo, Co., or 24 nw of Colo. Springs. Actually there is a whole set of roads in the ghost town area of colorado, paved and unpaved, including "oh my god road". Where does/did the cog run?
ACP
Flirting with the laws of physics.
ACP
Flirting with the laws of physics.
Up off Highway 2 in Washington is a stretch almost begging for a tarmac/gravel rally. Parts of the Old cascade highway (still paved and maintained by the state) that are super-squiggly forest roads and then there's Beckler road, which teams could take at 100mph plus. Only problem is that both are next to rivers that would probably get conservationists in a crinkle.
The rest of the rally could be made up of the hundreds of forest roads in the area. At the end of beckler there are about 20 roads that branch off...even a large area that would work for service of about 30 cars
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The rest of the rally could be made up of the hundreds of forest roads in the area. At the end of beckler there are about 20 roads that branch off...even a large area that would work for service of about 30 cars
Ryan Douthit
Driving Sports Magazine
http://www.drivingsports.com
Land between the Lakes ,north and west of Nashville on the Tennessee and Kentucky border. It belongs to the U.S. Forest Service and I-24 runs close by. It has both tarmac and gravel roads. A main road called the Trace goes up the middle and would give great access for spectators. Food and lodging can be found the towns of Dover,Tn and Cadiz,Ky.
Mike et al, Rallybrat is correct. I, along with Ole Holter are putting together 2 rallysprints here in So.Cal this year. Total mileage will be in the region of 30-35 miles using pristine, tight and twisty tarmac. Paperwork is nearly complete for submission for the road closure permit. Should we get the support for these events, we will be seriopusly considering looking at a 2 day tarmac event in 2005. I'm hoping for a video of the roads to be available through this means in the near future, for those that are unfamiliar with them, if I can get someone to host it. Will keep you all posted.
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Those are our to and from Ice Races roads. There are plenty of roads, I can think of about 25 miles around the colorado springs area alone that would be great for it. US 50 west of pueblo is too wide IMO, US 24 is good, especially between the west springs and woodland park. The highway that connects us 24 to co 67 has about 15 good miles on it too. Hell some parts of 67 are excellent dirt roads, many a colorado rally fan has done something stupid on that road..... The state highway that goes into the back side of breckenridge is a great tarmac road too. Plenty of miles of good tarmac in CO, just need someone to help plan and map it out, feel like making a return road trip ACP? I got plenty of possibilities all over the state. Some really fun dirt roads too.....
Those are our to and from Ice Races roads. There are plenty of roads, I can think of about 25 miles around the colorado springs area alone that would be great for it. US 50 west of pueblo is too wide IMO, US 24 is good, especially between the west springs and woodland park. The highway that connects us 24 to co 67 has about 15 good miles on it too. Hell some parts of 67 are excellent dirt roads, many a colorado rally fan has done something stupid on that road..... The state highway that goes into the back side of breckenridge is a great tarmac road too. Plenty of miles of good tarmac in CO, just need someone to help plan and map it out, feel like making a return road trip ACP? I got plenty of possibilities all over the state. Some really fun dirt roads too.....
>In the Alsea district of the Siuslaw National Forest, here
>in Oregon, there is a large network of logging roads between
>highway 34 and 126. A few of them are paved, including two
>through routes from 34 to 126.
How about joining the Alsea roads with the Grand Ronde/Bible Creek area just to the north?
The Willamette Motor Club hosts the Bible Creek Hill Climb every August(http://www.wmclub.org/hillclimb.html).
The Road Not Taken TSD uses the roads in this area as well during the same weekend as the hill climb. There is already an established relationship with the Forest Service and the BLM....
>in Oregon, there is a large network of logging roads between
>highway 34 and 126. A few of them are paved, including two
>through routes from 34 to 126.
How about joining the Alsea roads with the Grand Ronde/Bible Creek area just to the north?
The Willamette Motor Club hosts the Bible Creek Hill Climb every August(http://www.wmclub.org/hillclimb.html).
The Road Not Taken TSD uses the roads in this area as well during the same weekend as the hill climb. There is already an established relationship with the Forest Service and the BLM....
pretty much any of these would be perfect, and many of them are away from civilization.
http://www.sbc-rides.com/
edit: you could run the entire thing from a spot on highway 154, as some of the best roads are right in the same area.
http://www.sbc-rides.com/
edit: you could run the entire thing from a spot on highway 154, as some of the best roads are right in the same area.
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