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They raced the Vauxhall Chevette in Yuurop, did it do well? It looks just like our Chevette, but is it? The wheelbase on the US Chevette is 94" which is awfully short. Did anyone every rally one over here back in the old days? What do you guys think about it as a H class car? Yeah John, I know an Escort MkI/MkII is better, I am not considering one I just saw a show on Legends of Motorsport about the Dealer Team Vauxhall rally teams from the '70's and thought I'd ask if it was a good or bad car.
 

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>They raced the Vauxhall Chevette in Yuurop, did it do well?

I've wondered about these, too, especially since they can interchange parts with the I-Marks and Impulses, and there must be plenty available dirt cheap for spares. The only downside is that it is a Chevette!!
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Bonus: You'd have that corny "Chevy Chevette - it'll drive you happy" 70's jingle to go along with it!:+ Besides, Pentii drove one!
 

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They raced the Vauxhall Chevette in Yuurop, did it do well?
>It looks just like our Chevette, but is it? The whellbase on
>the US Chevette is 94" which is awfully short. Did anyone
>every rally one over here back in the old days? What do you
>guys think about it as a H class car? Yeah John, I know an
>Escort MkI/MkII is better, I am not considering one I just
>saw a show on Legends of Motorsport about the Dealer Team
>Vauxhall rally teams from the '70's and thought I'd ask if
>it wasn a good or bad car.
No Brisan, I'n not going to smack yawl upside da haid! You
ll do that yerself if you try this.

OK the Vauxhaul things were pretty darn good when they got to their second ones.
The used a 4 door shell with the longer wheelbase, moved the B pillar back and used the 2 door door.
The car is in fact a Opel Kadette B or C, and was made in Brazil before USA, Japan by I-screwed-u as the Buick Opel, and even the later I mark rwd seems to be a carryover, also they were made in Korea by Kia or whoever the hell made the US spec "Lemans" in the late 80s, and in 'der vaterland' in Rüsselheim and in Luton in Bedfordshire.

The real HS 2300 16v ones used a motor canted over at ?? degrees, based on I believe the opel Blitz diesel again made in Brazil.
They used I believe Fords big strong 'Atlas' axle with a big '006' family ZF diff.

The Kadette B or C or whatever its called was a good car where the roads were tight even when they used the lump-o-iron 1900/200 Opel Cam in head motor, which is what one version, the GTE (I think its called that, I build really good Opel motors but don't keep up the model names so well).

Here one could use the 'Ford Escort Rally Prep manual' and really if you put it together like it says you'd have a pretty good car.

Of course everybody else did exactly that, Toyotas, Mistsu Colts, Datsuns were all done virtually to the same spec.

If you don't build it like a Gp4 car then it would be an appaling short incredible POS.

Oh the standard motors are really BAD,so right off forget that.
The Opel 2.0 XE 16 would be a pretty hilarious motor to use, yeeeeeeeeeee haaaaaaaw!




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OK, so the short answer is, it could be made to be a good rally car, but would require a lot more work than other similar cars (Escort, 510, Corolla, etc).
 

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rallied chevette

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Yes, Chevette was rallied in the 70's and 80's by John Power who was publisher of Rally Magazine along with Tom Grimshaw. Hdqs was in Dallas.

The Chevette was prepared and furnished by Chevrolet and was the subject of many articles and was on the cover one month. John Power competed in a # of events.

I competed in one rally, Cherokee Challenge out of Grove OK organized by Ken Stewart in the late 80's, with the Chevette when my regular rally car was down and could not be ready for the event The engine was quite torquey, believe it was called the iron max, iron duke or iron something. It was not the std engine for a Chevette.

It was alot of fun to drive.

Still have the old Rally Magazines. Will look up and find some more info.

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The Yank Chevette and those built elsewhere in the world were quite different machines. Same kind of thing as that first-generation Ford Escort - the US-built cars were a good deal different than their international namesake even though they looked alike. A Chevette would certainly make a unique H-car but it would be a lot more fun, competitive and durable if the actual Chevrolet pieces put in were kept to a minimum. I believe the Vauxhall Chevettes found considerable success in British rally series in the hands of Pentti Arikkala.

Speaking of Chevettes, Rallye Magazine and John Power, here's a shot of Power and Earl Hammond running the '81 MWAC/NARRA Chisum Trail Rally, supported by me as service crew (I think). So many rallies ... ;-)

http://www.realautosport.com/Harvey/Chevette.jpg

I actually got to drive that green Rallye Magazine Chevette before it became a stage car when a couple ladies affiliated with the periodical came north to Stillwater to run the "Car Sick Memorial" gimmick road rally I was staging annually.

BTW - I'm recently back in touch with John although I'm having little luck enticing him to appear at a rally ...

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I used to own the HS version, but tweaked it slightly. Peter Maiden rebuilt the engine using his designed big valved head, fast road cam and 2" SU's. Upped the power from 135hp (stock) to around 160hp. The 5 speed Getrag box's ratios were fine for the power. Didn't seem like a lot but did it fly! Torque was beautiful, 65mph on the motorway and just floor the accelerator in 5th and it would go! Pentti was just one name who had success with these machines when they were reliable, pushing out around 240hp back then. Jimmy McRae was another, Tony Pond was a master driving this thing on tarmac (Manx) and Chris Sclater (who was accompanied on occasion by Martin Holmes). Used it in Belgium on the roads around Huy where this weekends tragedy occurred. Many replaced the Vauxhall lump later on, using the Pinto engine. I would take another tomorrow.
 

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A bit of info on the base models of all the T bodied cars, seems as it was essentially the Kadett B, the traverse leaf spring of the Kadett A replaced with coils in a very typical Opel set up, and now with the dampers mounted above the top A arm rather than on the bottom going thru the spring.
[http://jvab.ffwd.us/motor_trend75_page2a.jpg]


And here's a base HSR without the big swoopy arches

[http://jvab.ffwd.us/Hsrp.jpg]


So it appears the basic car in USA could be made into a HS replica if one were a glutton for punishment.
8.9" rear wheel movement!!

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