>Hey Remner,
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>A quick google search yielded this :
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http://winktimber.com/vintagerally/cars/hintz240.htm
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>It appears that not all feel that the 240Z chassis is the
>flimsy turd that you say it is.
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>But since you responded to the 240Z question... what do you
>think about the early RWD Mitsubitchi Lancer's ?
Thomas pojken,
trust me the Zs were run as a merketing decision, not a competitiveness decision.
I've had a good 2-3 cups of tea with one of the poor sods that had to drive those things, Tony Fall, and he said they were just what I expected: vile pooly balanced Piles of sheet AS SOON AS IT WAS THE LEAST BIT SLIPPERY.
Poor weight balance is always a problem when a car is essentially compromised to be a styling excercise.
Big heavy loooooooooooooooooooooong inline 6 makes for pig-like handling.
Short wheelbase and chassi makes for a NERVOUS twitchy car (mistaken by many for 'nimble'
Poor outwards visibility due to seating position and loooooooooooong nose, bad when zooming down roads ya never seen before.
And that goes for any car thats mainly a compromised "style" queen (Mitsubish Eclipse SPRING! to mind)
As for oily Mitsu Lancers, um I think that's what this 74 thing we call the Vodge that BC Boy Morten is getting.
I think you a) might have a fun time finding them and b) find that they have the deficient brakes, and crappy to really mod motors and c) grim slow steering with recirculating ball= dead on center feel
d) HEAVY.
Please, at least make sure you get something with at LEAST 97" wheelbase and rack and pinion steering.
Maybe think about Nissan 200SX, that has some potential and Nissan while building a flimsy shell (according to BC boy Vic Harvey) and a heavy one, does have some fun powerplants in the right sizes and a lot of swaps are posible (can you say SR20DE)
Problem is again in finding one, lots were crushed, and now the drift pervs are in a buying frenzy and driving prices up.
You could say that about any 80s rwd Japcrap.
70s were too horrible and heavy and bad motors tint brakes and slow steering, 80s heavy and now priced stooooopid.
Thomas as recently as 1990, I woulda said OK get a 1980 Toiletta Commodah just cause we had one of the best drivers in the US,
Vern Johnson from Portland, OR kicking ass and even matching and beating the best National times in one. And he weren't doing it with some killah motor but just some Jap import 2,0 8v version of the 3TC, so it could be done.
And in those days finding a free or 100 buck Commodah was easy, so WHEN you wadded it you could be out in the woods again in a couple of months of liesurly reshelling.
They're gone now.
You know it turns out Vern has a couple of (are you ready........)
Xratties now.
See it sems that the Xratties a great combination of what we need and orphan enough that silly children/clone clowns aren't driving prices up like the '85 Corrolla I looked at to build a drift car and send to my Chinese partner rally guy to go drifting in between rallies.
Geezer wanted 1960 buckskis Americaine for the thing WITH A BLOWN DEAD TO RATSHEEET MOTOR.
And my Datsun/Nissan friends say the same thing has happened to "real 510s" and to the 200SX onwards.
Oh forget Celicas, PIG heavy and shitskisteering, pain in the ace to build a good motor for them.
Go EAST (from BC anyway) Young man. Or Over the Polcirclen.
I suppose i should ask: whaddya got against European cars?
Do you not LIKE helpful info from manufacturers who _supported rally_?
And yeah maybe there's something in the air that's makin you a little dis-orientat-a-mamted. (stop smokin' that stuff!)
John Vanlandingham
Seattle, WA. 98168
janvanvurpa (at) f4 (dot) ca
Vive le Prole-le-ralliat!
Vive Le Groupe F!