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The 2002 visual identification package will be enforced at Rim of the World Pro Rally. You will not be allowed to tech without compliance. The guidelines are very clear and must be followed. Protected space at the front of the door is minimum 8" and maximum of 10". The Club/Pro car number must agree with the Club/Pro Backer. Sponsor decals, flags, and name fonts will all be checked. If you need to order any parts of the kit, do it early.
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is this also for the club only guys. The rule book does not specifically say club only must have the package, only Pro/Club, but can be interpreted several different ways. What is your interpretation (as you are the new enforcer.. :) )
 

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Doug could you clarify if this only pertains to anyone entered as PRO? The rules are pretty clear that the VIP is optional for Club only entries. Of course the reserved space issue is universal.

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Whats the deal with flags?

What do we need national flags for if this is a NATIONAL event i.e.
United States National Championship?
National flags have some significace in INTERNATIONAL events, but since this is for domestic consumption, who cares?

What about guys like Jardevall, US resident, born over in djupaste Småland, what should he show?

can we choose any national flag like English choose to show the Cross of St George, and Scots St.Andrew's, or must they show the flag for the United Kingdom.

Will the scutineers be checking passports, those Welsh are a tricky lot and may try to slip in a flag with that griffon or dog thats vomiting or whatever it is on Cyrmu (or how ever you say it pete, we keeping an eye out on you!)

Fonts?
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RE: Whats the deal with flags?

Actually people have been encouraged to run a national flag that they are somehow affiliated with and being born, or having spent much of your life in another country sounds good to me. I don't think anyone is really going to make a stink unless you try to run something like the skull and crossbones or a don't tread on me or some other non-natioal flag or controversial flag. I have considered the California Republic flag and even the Scottish flag (I have a lot of that in me) but I would really rather that puking dog as you put it.

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RE: Whats the deal with flags?

Seems like the last time this was discussed, the consensus was that ANY national flag was OK but they didn't like the Jolly Roger.

We were planning to keep the Italian flags on the Stratos just to be different. The thing about it that worries me is that the driver & co-driver names are on the sides of the roof (like the works cars) because there is no quarter-glass. (Just looked it up and apparently I need an exemption for this.) Come to think of it, my doors are only 19" tall. Anybody know how tall the official ClubRally car numbers are?

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RE: Whats the deal with flags?

Pete Morris (building "Son of CoROLLa.). Now what have I done? Dragging my name down to your level! Actually, it is spelled CYMRU.You were close though. It's actually a griffin not a griffon, or a Welsh Dragon. Just for your info, the Welsh language is said to be the oldest language in Europe. Yes, I can understand it, but not too fluent. Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllandysiliogogoch to you and may you have many of them! I hope it doesn't hurt too much.
 
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>Doug could you clarify if this only pertains to anyone
>entered as PRO? The rules are pretty clear that the VIP is
>optional for Club only entries. Of course the reserved
>space issue is universal.

Brad and Bill correct. If you are a Club-only competitor, we encourage the use of the Visual ID package, but the rules say (in three different places) that the package is strictly optional. (This was reconfirmed in our last CR Stewards call.)

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RE: Whats the deal with flags?

Pete, care to translate

Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllandysiliogogoch

for all of us?


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RE: Whats the deal with flags?

>Pete, care to translate
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>Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllandysiliogogoch
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>for all of us?
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>Bradney A. Boli
>Over Exposure Racing
>Honda Accord #311

Ain't that the place where they built this church in the woods 'cause too many people were falling in the creek and drowning when they'd go to this red cave to pray? And the guy who haunted the cave got so p*ss*d that no one was coming anymore that he sneaked into town one night and stole the space bar off everyone's keyboard? :7
 

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Yeah!!!

It's about time!

Those of us who have in the past gone to lengths and trouble to make sure we were meeting the specifications of the rules get tired of seeing certain teams (and they know who they are) effectively thumbing their noses at the rules and rulemakers.

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RE: Compliance

>The 2002 visual identification package will be enforced at
>Rim of the World Pro Rally. You will not be allowed to tech
>without compliance. The guidelines are very clear and must
>be followed. Protected space at the front of the door is
>minimum 8" and maximum of 10". The Club/Pro car number must
>agree with the Club/Pro Backer. Sponsor decals, flags, and
>name fonts will all be checked. If you need to order any
>parts of the kit, do it early.
>Doug

Hi Doug,

As per the 2002 rulebook, page 5.6.F.2:

"All welding must be of the highest possible quality with full penetration..."

When will this rule be enforced? I happen to think this should be a higher priority than decal placement.

Email me off list when you get a chance, I have a photo I'd like to share...

Also, are you planning on actually weighing cars in the near future? How about an O-Control sometime during the event to make sure everyone is on a level playing field?? Silly to have a minimum weight requirement if it's not enforced, but it seems to be very difficult to do in rally, without "surprise" checks. Too easy to play games with disappearing ballast. I'd like to see the minimum weight rule go away actually.

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RE: Compliance

>they weighed cars at tech at OT
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>john

Would be pretty easy to take 100# of ballast out of your car after tech, wouldn't it?

I saw that they had scales available, but did all Open class cars get weighed??

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RE: Whats the deal with flags?

Pete Morris (building "Son of CoROLLa.). Thank you all for your comments! I've always said ex-British bobbies and rally people have a great sense of humour. (I'm bragging as I fall into both categories). It's a very difficult language to understand, even for me, let alone spell. It must be the only language in the world that uses double d (sounds like a soft th) double ff (as it sounds) and double l (can't even start to tell you how that sounds). It's a visual!
 
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