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I was talking with Ray Hocker this weekend at Doo **** and mentioning how cool I thought it was, how well they've been supporting the regional events, and he mentioned this championship.

These guys are really listening to the competitors.
 

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THIS IS TOO FUNNY!
When I suggested this two years ago to several people, organizers and sanctioning bodies, I was told I'm crazy,.. who's going to pay for this,.. we have enough to do as it is, we don't need that kind of s...!
It's amazing what happens when you set a bug in someones ear.
I'm not looking for credit, I'm just glad it's finally happening.

Whiplash Rallye Sport
(Rallye isn't a Crime)
 

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Congratulations.
Good timing, too.

I have been pushing for more recognition and status for the driving efforts of 2wd cars since about 1991-92 when the Eclipses and a few other turbo 4wd cars arrived in numbers, were horribly driven, missed turns, flubbed gearchanges, and still beat well driven 2wd cars.

I read elsewhere of a nice old 2wd Ford Escort (that used to live just down the road) at some event somewhere in the flyover states putting the lie to the mythology repeated by most for 10 years or more "you HAVE TO have turbo 4wd to be competitive".

Thumbs up for NASA,
Thumbs up for Justin Pritchard and 2wd

(and thumbs up for the sheer fun of rwd)
 
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Eric,

This is not a response to this post, just a clarification as
we discussed yesterday:

<Okay, can you guys elaborate a bit?

<So the PR and the front page of the NASA site

It is USRC site not NASA site.

<would have a headline like:

<"Richards take AWD and Malik/Trowbridge win 2WD at Rim of the World"
<...or something like this and then actually detail the fight that
<went on for BOTH Pat vs. Iorio/Block/Verdier AND Bill vs.
<Bruce/Hollingsworth/Keeney?

Yes

<You'll have photos up of BOTH champagne sprays, not just the AWD?

Exactly

<Or will there be another story written seperately? We could handle
<that. Even a sidebar to begin with. Rally America's website has 4
<stories on the front page. All of them about Ken Block/Subaru. The
<winner of 2wd didn't even make it into the press release!!!

That is what is going to happen.

Ivan Orisek
 

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Eric,

All the details are not cast in stone but the concept is certainly what you've illustrated in your posting. There will be two sets of podiums for the winners, one for AWD and one for 2WD. The press releases will feature both groups in the same way. We're being realistic and know a change like this is a big job. We got lots of work to do to put everything together and it will take some time. Scoring and TV coverage will have to adopted to separate and feature both groups equally.

It is important that AWD competitors and manufactures realize we are not forsaking them. They've made a huge investment in our sport through the years. We see this as a positive move that will benefit everyone by increasing interest and support for our sport and our events.

Many of us know, from experience, that driving a 2WD car fast is just as exciting and perhaps even more demanding than in an AWD car. The competitor's experience is just as rewarding but far less expensive with a much lower initial investment. If nothing else, just increasing the number of entries at events will help to lower entry fees and benefit everyone. It is much better to spread event expenses over 80 teams than just 40 or 50.

Ray Hocker
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Abandon (champion)ship!

Eric,
Its not too late to run USRC this year. Wish this was announced earlier, like before SnoDrift.
 

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RE: Abandon (champion)ship!

Yeah, and you could always just run the bike instead.
 

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>Eric, just take that spinny muffler off your car and come
>play. You gotta keep it fair!

Eric has a car w/o the spinny muffler but the spinny muffler car is the one that pays the bills (I think).

Would love to see a rally offer heavily discounted entries perhaps on an invitation-basis to the more-recognized 2wd drivers that would run in conjunction with normal AWD event but have the distinction of being the '2wd shootout'.
 

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it sounds like we are heading towards R/A being the (Subaru) AWD sanctioning body and USAC/NARA the 2WD sanctioning body.
No more competition between bodies.
ken
 
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