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Gentlemen:

In past years, there have been very cordial Licensing Reciprosity agreements between CARS and SCCA. Wonderful, but SCCA is out of the picture in 2005.

In 2005, Americans will have both NASA and Rally America. Maybe something else as well. It's doubtful that very many Americans will hold licenses from multiple American organizations. Some Americans might prefer to join CARS only, if that were possible.

What is the CARS outlook on this "American Question"?

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>In 2005, Americans will have both NASA and Rally America.
>Maybe something else as well. It's doubtful that very many
>Americans will hold licenses from multiple American
>organizations.

Its nuts. I currently have memberships and licenses from CARS, NASA and SCCA. Would rather have that dough for an additional entry fee each season over have to pay for redundant licenses.

>Some Americans might prefer to join CARS
>only, if that were possible.

That is how I feel. If not that, make FIA licenses readily available.
 

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>Gentlemen:
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>In past years, there have been very cordial Licensing
>Reciprosity agreements between CARS and SCCA. Wonderful, but
>SCCA is out of the picture in 2005.
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>In 2005, Americans will have both NASA and Rally America.
>Maybe something else as well. It's doubtful that very many
>Americans will hold licenses from multiple American
>organizations. Some Americans might prefer to join CARS
>only, if that were possible.
>
>What is the CARS outlook on this "American Question"?

Effectively, it comes down to this:

If you live in Canada, you can get a CARS license and (assuming there is an agreement like the CARS-SCCA one) run US events on your CARS license (you had to join the SCCA for insurance reasons). You cannot get a US license and run CARS events on it.

If you live in the US, you can run CARS events on your US license, or you can get a CARS license. There is no expectation that a US sanctioning body will accept a CARS license from a US resident, though.

Both CARS and SCCA operated under the premise that they would accept the others' license for a legitimate competitor who was resident in the other country and that a resident of their country would run on their license. There was an exception in the case of a US competitor running CARS events for points, as a CARS license was required if they wanted to do that.

I know RA and CARS are going to have a discussion about this.

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And as far as I know NASA is working with CARS on this as well. Since NASA only has one license, I'm unsure how it will work with National and/or Regional eligibility in Canada.
 

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The real question Rich is, is there going to be Grp5 in Canada? 'Cause I want run the car I've been building for the last 3 years and spent $6k on. I'm as close to BC as I am to the Coast. Though I really wanted to run the car on the roads I've been watching for the last 4 years.


I'm going to go look and see what the requirements are for getting a CARS licence.
 

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RE: The G5 Question

There is a proposed rule to add a Group 5 class to the CARS program. I cannot guess or speculate on whether it will come to pass - but I will anyway. Yes, I think it will happen. If not for 2005, then maybe within another year or two. Again, that is my opinion, with absolutely no basis in fact.

Now, having said all that - your car is already legal in the Open class in Canada (assuming it has a log book). I wouldn't worry about whether you'll be able to play in G5 in Canada or not. Just be content knowing there IS a place to play - when you are ready. Experience is experience. You're not likely to be fighting for class wins your first couple of seasons anyway.

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>That is how I feel. If not that, make FIA licenses readily
>available.

Ding ding ding...we have a winner.

Then I could run a rally in UK or Mexico, too, right?

Licenses, shmicenses.
 

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>I don't care about winning, I just want run my car.
Scott, there WILL be a Gr5 in Canada next year, so finish the garage,
make a monthly budget to get the suspenders piecemeal and get ready.





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RE: The G5 Question

Gary wrote:
>as far as I know NASA is working with CARS on this as well

NASA's work is done: they ALREADY accept a CARS rally license.
They did that right from the start.

Not sure if they require a NASA membership for insurance like
SCCA did.

I guess that's the complicated part, since there's really two issues (license and membership).

Cheers,
Anders, US
 

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RE: The G5 Question

if "you just want to run your car" then nothing has to change, you can run it TODAY and TOMORROW and you DONT NEED A GRP 5 CLASS just run it in open
 

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RE: The G5 Question

>Gary wrote:
>>as far as I know NASA is working with CARS on this as well
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>NASA's work is done: they ALREADY accept a CARS rally
>license.
>They did that right from the start.
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>Not sure if they require a NASA membership for insurance
>like
>SCCA did.
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>I guess that's the complicated part, since there's really
>two issues (license and membership).
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>Cheers,
>Anders, US

It sounds like NASA accepts Cars but not the other way around.
At least that's how it sounds here:

http://www.nasaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=3308

But like Gary said, NASA is working on that!

Rob:)
 
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