>I took a quick look at the overall times and it looked like
>he is 20 seconds in front.
>Just enough to keep everyone behind hoping? Or has the trophy
>already been engraved?
what trophy are you talking about
after this raound stig and pat are gonna be tied or maybe it could be travis and pat tied who nows anything could happen tomorrow on the final day of the race. its gonna be an intrersting rest of the season
I think if Pat hadn't transmission trouble we would have seen a huge battle. Stig is probably going at about 98% right now and letting the gap close up. Tomorrow we will see him use the last 2% and pull back some time on Travis. I don't think he would have been able to do that to Pat if Pat had stayed in the game.
If Travis keeps improving at the rate he has been up to now, look out all! He is right up at the sharp end after very few events and once he gets more experience, you can imagine. He is the future of North American rallying, if he wants it.
If he doesn't break too many bones on the bikes that is!!:7
Well judging from the results last time Stig ran in polite cruiser mode I'd say he has just a little in reserve. Look at the last time he didn't put a world of hurt on everybody, very steady lead around 40 seconds, Pat and Travis were slowly gaining on him and closing that gap.
Hopefully Pat can put together a program for the rest of the year and really put forth some excitement!
It is very hard for those of us not at the rally to comment with certainty, but I would say he is breaking a sweat.
Pat lost 22 seconds to Stig on Stage 1 when he broke a driveshaft. After Stage 10 (Pat retired on Stage 11), Pat was 26 second behind Stig. So, call it even up to then.
However, Pat had taken 20 seconds off Stig on Stages 8, 9 and 10. Would he have caught Stig? Only Pat and Stig know. I suspect it would have been very interesting.
Remember this is not the same Stig as 10 or 20 years ago. And certainly not the same Stig as 30 years ago when he was as fast as the works Ford Escorts in his SAAB 96. However, his vast experience and a superb car will ensure that he will be at or near the top of the results sheet at every rally this year.
I think that we are in for a real treat and we are lucky to have him competing with us.
>It is very hard for those of us not at the rally to comment
>with certainty, but I would say he is breaking a sweat.
>Pat lost 22 seconds to Stig on Stage 1 when he broke a
>driveshaft. After Stage 10 (Pat retired on Stage 11), Pat was
>26 second behind Stig. So, call it even up to then.
>However, Pat had taken 20 seconds off Stig on Stages 8, 9 and
>10. Would he have caught Stig? Only Pat and Stig know. I
>suspect it would have been very interesting.
>Remember this is not the same Stig as 10 or 20 years ago. And
>certainly not the same Stig as 30 years ago when he was as
>fast as the works Ford Escorts in his SAAB 96. However, his
>vast experience and a superb car will ensure that he will be
>at or near the top of the results sheet at every rally this
>I think that we are in for a real treat and we are lucky to
>have him competing with us.
>Watch out for Travis.
Many good points Doug, but don't forget that Stig's car arrived later than David Sutton would have liked and left them with little time for shake-downs or familiarization runs. You'd expect an experienced team would launch a season-long venture like theirs a little cautiously under such conditions.
Is Stig sweating or cruising? My guess is neither.
Have we yet seen his or the car's full potential? I don't think so.
But like you, I look forward to the rest of the season with greeat anticipation, especially Pikes Peak since I'll be part of the proceedings this year.
My guess is that Stig is cruising, or having car difficulties. Guys with his much experience don't run so inconsistantly, there must be a reason.
I can't help but be impressed with Pastrana. He certainly looks to be the real deal. He's yet to prove he can keep up on the rocket fast east coast roads, but if he's up to it, we may very well be looking at the next American WRC driver. It's all bit premature yet, but Travis very well could be the shot in the arm US Rally has sorely needed.
One thing is for sure, it's gonna be an exciting season!
he has a fair amount of land to play on doesnt he? or at least easy access to land. im sure he spends a fair amount of time behind the wheel in the dirt. he can afford to do something the rest of us cant. get lots and lots of seat time. not just a couple hours a month at rallies and a few minutes here and there at rallyx.
>My guess is that Stig is cruising, or having car
>difficulties. Guys with his much experience don't run so
>inconsistantly, there must be a reason.
I'll betcha because he's older his bladder isn't holding as well as it once did, and he stopped on stages a few times to take a leak (or maybe take photos of the scenery) while still giving himself enough time to win the rally.
>i wonder what travis does in his spare time?
>he has a fair amount of land to play on doesnt he? or at
>least easy access to land. im sure he spends a fair amount of
>time behind the wheel in the dirt. he can afford to do
>something the rest of us cant. get lots and lots of seat
>time. not just a couple hours a month at rallies and a few
>minutes here and there at rallyx.
Wasn't there a video from one of his sponsors somewhere online with him doing exactly that? I think I remember seeing something along those lines.
Sure is fun following along at home while I'm able, wish I was there.
Well, to win you have to be faster than the next guy. Is it worth being 5 seconds a mile faster if you stick the car in a ditch or break it?
Let me put it another way. I'm sure Stig can drive faster than he drove this weekend, but he didn't need to.
(edit) Sad that Pat had troubles -- he set from pretty fast times.
I'm impressed with Pastrana - and he's kept the car on the road.
Our weekend was a bit odd:
The usual rushed preperation, not really ready for Friday's stages.
The PIR stages were mostly fun, but we couldn't go over 75MPH (points problem).
Mostly fix the points problem Satuday AM, then the car wouldn't fire. A tiny shot of brakekleen on the points did the trick (oil contamination?)
Very happy to win the best prepped historic car award -- now if some of the other older cars that were included in the preparation category (pre 80) would come across to H class you could all take turns kicking my butt.
SS6 was huge fun, and then we were hauling through SS7 when 2nd gear broke a bit after the spectator area.
We got through most of the stage without 2nd and pulled over in a wide area to let a bunch of people pass. Then the car locked in gear, we rocked it out and got going (to the 2nd group passing us, we had already pulled our triangle in and I was waiting for the co-driver to get his belts tight).
We made it to the finish and then 1st gear died at the finish control.
After some deliberation we drove down one of the connecting roads to the beginning of SS10, planning to drive out to Trask via the transit road into SS10. The car made it, but then overheated (no coolant).
I suspect a stuck thermostat and possibly a small leak.
We filled it and made it to service, where we drained the broken teeth out and were able to drive back to our trailer in Hillsboro.
This is our first non-electrical DNF. Our stock 37 year old gear set held up for 2 years of hard rallying, which isn't bad really. I will probably fit a Quaife gearkit.
we broke a driveshaft on friday and low turbo pressure until the long service after ss4
the ss6 times are 'interesting'
we got a puncture on ss7 (I think) while being fairly aggro, so we lost even more time (you figure it out - we only lost 10 seconds or so but we had a flat left front), overall gap was now over 45 seconds or so.
its not stig that was inconsistent it was us on mechanical side
we started our attack in the afternoon but the stage where you would have seen stig's response to SS10 was where we dnf'd. you figure it out. maybe the tv show will show you the ss11 splits that should be interesting.
>we broke a driveshaft on friday and low turbo pressure until
>the long service after ss4
>the ss6 times are 'interesting'
>we got a puncture on ss7 (I think) while being fairly aggro,
>so we lost even more time (you figure it out - we only lost
>10 seconds or so but we had a flat left front), overall gap
>was now over 45 seconds or so.
>its not stig that was inconsistent it was us on mechanical
>we started our attack in the afternoon but the stage where you
>would have seen stig's response to SS10 was where we dnf'd.
>you figure it out. maybe the tv show will show you the ss11
>splits that should be interesting.
split times is something i would really love to see more here in US rallying. that would be fascinating. too bad we have a limited manpower supply allready.
hey pat i saw some pics of your sister w/a RA shirt on. did you guys work the rally after the DNF?
Since you are responding to this thread, maybe you could answer a question. Do you think that Stig's car is in fact quicker than the Sti that you are running? I guess a similar and related question is how your current MY02 car compares with the face-lifted Subaru that you ran in the Canadian championship and then in the PWRC?
re the 02 car vs. the 04 car... yes there are some developments between the two cars (hydraulic handrake, more torque, easier to get down to min weight)... otherwise all the PWRC and other 'serious' grp N runners would have stuck with 02s. That being said, unless you are trading seconds, it doesn't matter anyhow.
Jens, I wasn't making any excuses, I was explaining the situation since some people were speculating. Until the fat lady signs, you never know. I dont think stig was going flat out that is why I said ss11 was the 'response' stage hence the splits. Most people dont know I asked stig for an autographed poster too !