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Beware! This looks like a real overseas scammer, that came up in regards to my rally car ad. Lessee, I ask $2500 and will be paid "$6000:00" ???? And asking to "refund [the] balance"?? The below was received today, and is going down the toilet unless someone trusted on this site convinces me that Mr. "Mark John" is a for-real English nut with lots of dough and bad spelling!

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Hello,

Thanks for the mail and I will really love to get the 1979 Plymouth from you, So please i want you to remove that 1979 Plymouth . from further advert placement in the net. The price $6000:00 is very much okay by me for the 1979 Plymouth and as regards shipping of the 1979 Plymouth , i have a shipping agent who normally takes care of all my shipping consignments, so do not worry yourself about that, i will take care of that myself.

Yes it is My creditor in the U.S is actually going to be responsible for the payment for the 1979 Plymouth , and i have told him about this transaction and he told me that he will be sending the payment to you, he said the money i loaned to him has incured some interests and he will be sending my money to you with the commission, meaning you will be expecting a payment that is a little bit higher than the cost of the 1979 Plymouth Please after the cost of the 1979 Plymouth , can i trust you to refund my balance funds back to my shipping agent who will be coming for the pick up of the 1979 Plymouth ? do let me know this, cos its very important.

Please if this arrangement is okay by you, kindly send to me your full Name and Address so that the payment can be made to you next week. Also include your phone number so that i can give you a call to discuss in details. Also remember to include a pics of the 1979 Plymouth in your next mail, and do keep the title document and every other relevant papers of the 1979 Plymouth set and intact for the shipping agent who is coming for the pick up of the 1979 Plymouth Have a nice day and thanks once again for your response to my mail.

Best regards,

Mark [John]
 

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I received this from Mark Todd today. He is still around.

Hello,

Thanks for the mail and I will really love to get the 1989 Mazda from you, So please i want you to remove that 1989 Mazda from further advert placement in the net. The price $6000:00 is very much okay by me for the 1989 Mazda and as regards shipping of the 1989 Mazda , i have a shipping agent who normally takes care of all my shipping consignments, so do not worry yourself about that, i will take care of that myself.

Yes it is My creditor in the U.S is actually going to be responsible for the payment for the 1989 Mazda , and i have told him about this transaction and he told me that he will be sending the payment to you, he said the money i loaned to him has incured some interests and he will be sending my money to you with the commission, meaning you will be expecting a payment that is a little bit higher than the cost of the 1989 Mazda Please after the cost of the 1989 Mazda , can i trust you to refund my balance funds back to my shipping agent who will be coming for the pick up of the 1989 Mazda ? do let me know this, cos its very important.

Please if this arrangement is okay by you, kindly send to me your full Name and Address so that the payment can be made to you next week. Also include your phone number so that i can give you a call to discuss in details. Also remember to include a pics of the 1989 Mazda in your next mail, and do keep the title document and every other relevant papers of the 1989 Mazda set and intact for the shipping agent who is coming for the pick up of the 1989 Mazda Have a nice day and thanks once again for your response to my mail.
Best regards,

Mark.
 

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Where I work we almost got bitten by the scam and were lucky that I remembered reading something about it on Specialstage awhile back.

Being in the business of selling and servicing exotic cars we do deal with customers from all over. Just over a month ago we recieved a request to buy 2 Porsches and have them shipped to Holland. A casher's check arrived for the amount of the 2 cars etc with a letter explaining that the person had closed out an account and could the balance please be forwarded when the check cleared, a sum of $20,000. The interesting part is that the check did clear the bank on the first try yet we had them sit on it for 2 weeks just to make sure and sure enough it was a phoney and turned bad in about 10 days. There never was a transporter that showed up to get the cars and had we been over eager to please the customer and send the balance when it first cleared we would have been out the $20,000.

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I also have had this scam put on me several times regarding some Porsches I am selling. I already have a bad check and am waiting for a few more. Fortunately I had already known about this and they are all on American Express UK checks which are quite phoney. I gave the information to the agent in charge of this particular fraud, since it is well documented on the internet. These are all Nigerian criminals doing this by answering every high end car ad on the internet. I gave the agent the info, the address, phone numbers and where the people came from, the fedex account # and much more info and he refused to act on it because it was less than $250K and he was too busy to deal with it. I contacted the FBI office in Seattle and they told me the same thing. No legal agency even cares about this and so it keeps going on and on and on......

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Thanks John.

It's nice to know the old Arrow has moved up into the "high end" car bracket with all those Porsches. I may have to raise the price so I don't ruin the market price of the lesser 'exotic' cars.....:7

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RE: Scams for Rally Car Sellers! And simple SAABs,too

Yeah, and poor Graham "Graminal" Cullen, a friend from Lyndeborough, Nude Hampster is is up in the frozen hell of Lappland in Luleå going to University for a year is trying to sell his 1971 Saab 95 V4 wa-goon, since he's broke and liquor costs way to much, and he called me a couple of weeks ago and reported he had a customer ready to buy and asked what about shipping??
poor bastid,I smelled a RAT and a I asked 'Nigeria?'
Yeah howdya know???

Looks like Graham will have to get a job working in cafe for cash, djävla utlänningar!

But I always knew that Saab 96 and 95 were way nicer and more attractive than those pedestrian Porschés.


John Vanlandingham
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RE: Scams for Rally Car Sellers! And simple SAABs,too

I got the same email as everyone else but form the UK which was a new twist. Anyways I called the local FBI office and they said thathtey were swamped with calls about this and to ignore it since they were handling it.
 

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Since we're on the subject of scams...

I got the following email from my team's web site in September. I figured it was a scam (especially since we don't sell anything at all) but I kept the email. Definitely sounds fishy.

Jeff
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Anang Lowe" <[email protected]>
To: <*****>
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 1:20 PM
Subject: Terratrip 303 Plus order


> Dear Sir,
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> My name Anang Lowe from Indonesia, I'm interested to buy from
> your store.
> my order is:
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> - Terratrip 202 Plus, quantity: 15 units
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> Please confirm me the total prices and shipping cost to
> Singapore by DHL .
> Do you accept Visa/Mastercard?
> I look forward to hearing from you soon.
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> Best Regards,
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>
> Anang Lowe
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This sounds normal as these folks do not understand english well and if they see something that looks like what they want, they assume you sell it. If they give a credit card and have the three digit security code on the back of the card, then they are probably legit. I have sold alot of stuff to Indonesian rallyists. they have alot of very nice cars there and people with money to spend. The thing to watch for a counterfeit cashiers checks for in excess of the selling price where they want you to refund them the difference.

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>This sounds normal as these folks do not understand english
>well and if they see something that looks like what they
>want, they assume you sell it. If they give a credit card
>and have the three digit security code on the back of the
>card, then they are probably legit. I have sold alot of
>stuff to Indonesian rallyists. they have alot of very nice
>cars there and people with money to spend. The thing to
>watch for a counterfeit cashiers checks for in excess of the
>selling price where they want you to refund them the
>difference.
>
>J Nelson

That dozen 'Terratrip' order is a scam. Several ralliests have received it in the last year, as well as Jack Christensen (Timewise) and Mike Friedman (Alfa Computers).

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I need to know how this is a scam if they give you a credit card, the 3 digit security code and the billing address is the same as the shipping address and the processing company gives you approval? You need all these to process a card by phone or internet.
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>I need to know how this is a scam if they give you a credit
>card, the 3 digit security code and the billing address is
>the same as the shipping address and the processing company
>gives you approval? You need all these to process a card by
>phone or internet.

You don't necessarily need the security code or billing address to process a phone order credit card.

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