Look at these pages and see ("osanottajat" is the entry list). I think those are organized by month and day: >Another reason is the total lack of support for beginners,
>it took me almost a year to get my 2nd rally car log booked
>as when I called around to the officials I got a name for
>someone 2 hours away who was never avaible. Not once in all
>my efforts did anyone point out the 3 other people who could
>log book the car with in 15 min of my house. (my first car
>was so long ago it pre-dates log books)
>
>I expect Finland has a mentioning program for young or new
>drivers, I also expect they promote the idea of go out have
>some fun see what you can do, then and only if you do well
>should you look to make it into a professional effort. We
>need to do the same.
>
>Derek Bottles
This is not breaking new ground, IMHO the biggest differance is the motor clubs and the role they play in introducing new guys to the sport and supporting them. In the UK you have to join a MC before you can get a license, they are supported by the RACMSA and every town of any size has one.
I understand MC exist and offer the same support to new and experianced competitors in Italy, Scandinavia, France, Belgium and so on.
A MC gives you a social place where you can look for mentoring and learn new stuff in a relativly low pressure enviroment. You gain an instant network of like minded loonies who have been there and understand where you are and are willing to help.
That is exactly what is missing here...
As to the number of rallies in the UK, there are at usually 3 or 4 a weekend, sometimes more, I've been part of 180 car fields. They range from single stage events (think big rally-sprint on an old airfield or simular, maybe 25-40 stage miles and no transits) to multi-venue events lasting the entire weekend.
Most MC put on an event every year, which also spreads the load on organizers a lot wider. I was a memeber of Thame MC, a very small club with maybe 40 active members, we organized a multi-venue, 8 to 10 stage rally (the Aylesbury Stages) for the 4 or 5 years I was a member.
Just my thoughts...
Dave Kean
[email protected]
>it took me almost a year to get my 2nd rally car log booked
>as when I called around to the officials I got a name for
>someone 2 hours away who was never avaible. Not once in all
>my efforts did anyone point out the 3 other people who could
>log book the car with in 15 min of my house. (my first car
>was so long ago it pre-dates log books)
>
>I expect Finland has a mentioning program for young or new
>drivers, I also expect they promote the idea of go out have
>some fun see what you can do, then and only if you do well
>should you look to make it into a professional effort. We
>need to do the same.
>
>Derek Bottles
This is not breaking new ground, IMHO the biggest differance is the motor clubs and the role they play in introducing new guys to the sport and supporting them. In the UK you have to join a MC before you can get a license, they are supported by the RACMSA and every town of any size has one.
I understand MC exist and offer the same support to new and experianced competitors in Italy, Scandinavia, France, Belgium and so on.
A MC gives you a social place where you can look for mentoring and learn new stuff in a relativly low pressure enviroment. You gain an instant network of like minded loonies who have been there and understand where you are and are willing to help.
That is exactly what is missing here...
As to the number of rallies in the UK, there are at usually 3 or 4 a weekend, sometimes more, I've been part of 180 car fields. They range from single stage events (think big rally-sprint on an old airfield or simular, maybe 25-40 stage miles and no transits) to multi-venue events lasting the entire weekend.
Most MC put on an event every year, which also spreads the load on organizers a lot wider. I was a memeber of Thame MC, a very small club with maybe 40 active members, we organized a multi-venue, 8 to 10 stage rally (the Aylesbury Stages) for the 4 or 5 years I was a member.
Just my thoughts...
Dave Kean
[email protected]
