[MDBodnar]

http://www.rallyworldmagazine.com/contactus.aspx


I just spotted this on Sandman's Rally Page.

Looks like a good endevour, and with what looks like ties to US ProRally (or at least acknowledgment of...) could be a very good tool for Rally America and Performance Rally Participants in general to use as a resource and promotional tool.

Does anyone know the background, should I send in my $22 for a 6 issue subscribtion?

(Its so easy to get scammed on the internet...)

Thanks,
Mike

 

[JField]

"Rally World magazine is the first all rally magazine in the American market written for the rally enthusiast"

These guys must not remember Rally Magazine, which was a slick publication for its day, thanks to Kerry Voll and others. Unfortunately it didn't last too long.

 

[Jim]

Since they don't have SpecialStage in their links, I'd say you'd be crazy to subscribe.

 

[jeff burmeister]

I would like to be one of the first to welcome a printed media outlet for Rally in the Americas. I think it is about time that we got a pure printed rally magazine again.

I know I tried to find and secure the financing for a printed magazine myself a while back, but SpecialStage was not able to bring about that kind of up front capital or connections. So we focused on the real time aspects of rally.

I took a look at the list in "the who we are," good to see Lars (guy that shoots for Subaru USA) listed. Some of the other names are familiar, but only from questions that they asked of our operations here.

Really interesting Demographics numbers, I would be curious to learn how they secured that type of information without a distrubition cycle, but it is all good. It does look about right anyhow... but only 300 females?!?! that can't be right?!?! can it?


Best of Luck to Rally World Magazine, if an edition ever gets to a news stand, I will be one of the first in line to pick it up.

Jeff Burmeister
SpecialStage.com

 

[robin]

There's a few mentions of "US Rallying" and "SCCA coverage". I would say it's a mistake on their part not to also mention coverage of the very healthy Canadian series.

Robin

 

[SagSert]

It was about time someone stepped up to the plate.
Can somebody please research how many roundy-round-racing magazines are out there ?

My subscription is completed and I'm looking forward to receive the first issue. It may not be the best rally magazine in the world yet but if we all chip in (without expecting too much) I think it can be pretty good.

Once again kudos to those who take a risk and invest in something that has failed before.

God Speed

M.Samli

 

[Morgan]

It may not be the best rally
>magazine in the world yet but if we all chip in (without
>expecting too much) I think it can be pretty good.


Please By no means see this as an attack on your character, as I am more interested in public perception, (as this relates to something I have been working on), and I open this question to everybody, but I find it interesting that you assume that it won't be good without even seeing it yet,you seem to have low expectations for it, why is that?
I was also surprised more people were not excited to see this announcement, is it because it has been done before and failed? Or because it is not primarily covering US/Canada rallying? Do you think the rally fans inside and outside of the direct rally community would want more WRC coverage(such as this magazine) or would be interested more in North American rallying? do you think this magazine will be able to help North American competitors market themselves?

Jeff, I found the demographics a little funky too, I have been searching for those kinds of numbers for months for a project with a car magazine, and nobody has them, not the SCCA, not the organizers, not Subaru, etc. So they are either from another magazine such as Rally XS (i.e. European numbers), Speed Channel numbers or they are from the KS School of Marketing (i.e. from thin air)

 

[Chris Powell]

Can't wait for my first issue!

CP
Desert Storm Rally
8V MkII GTI #305

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[RussR]

Well, I am cautiously excited (?)!
I ordered the first issue, if all goes well, I'll subscribe.

I guess seeing Rally magazines come and go, like Rallysport in 2 seperate versions, and Rally here in the USA- I just don't have faith the magazine will be around for the long term.. HOWEVER, I ceretainly hope it does!

Nothing would make me happier than coverage of US events that go beyond a few sentences in Sportscar. Autoweek and Autosport cover SCCA rallies better than "our" magazine.

80 pages of pylons, 1 column of gravel makes me very unexcited when I see that mag in my mailbox. I would love to option out of the magazine to save 10 bucks on my SCCA membership.

 

[proflex]

I have spoken with one of the editors an it seems like it is going to be a real good effort. I think all us rally enthusiast should get behind this magazine. I have myself have subscribed to many Rally only magazines and only Rally XS has continued so long. As long as we get behind this magazine I think it will suceed. They tell me they are going to try and make it to all the SCCA Pro Rally events starting with RIM. I for one am going to support this magazine.

Best Regards,
E.Cantore
Proflex Shock Absorbers N.A.

 

[aenglish]

"Rallye" in the 70's was also a reasonable attempt at the time, tho' it only succeeded for a year or two.....
Hope it takes off!

(Actually, $22 isn't that much to encourage an ambitious publisher to take a chance in the US rally field - plenty of potential for content.)

>"Rally World magazine is the first all rally magazine in the
>American market written for the rally enthusiast"
>
>These guys must not remember Rally Magazine, which was a
>slick publication for its day, thanks to Kerry Voll and
>others. Unfortunately it didn't last too long.

 

[Subie Gal]

i'm in!! i'll support the effort


Jamie
www.subiegalracing.com
www.subiegal.com

 

[spoier]

I'm not sure what market this magazine is going after

Seems pretty heavy on the WRC coverage - OK is there going to be anything done better than Speed Channel (mute the Ralph parts) and RallyXS and any of the excellent WRC web sites? I doubt it. RallyXS has been around a long time because its a great mag with exclusive or at least first dibs on pretty much the whole scene. Column by Nicky Grist is interesting score on their part, but for how many issues?

Although I suppose there are enough WRC junkies that will buy anything and everything.

Mentions SCCA ProRally. Whoopee, which hired gun will win the next event, or who will win in a class with almost no competition, or basically buy a trophy, or whatever... where's the ClubRally? Where's the tech articles for DIY construction? Driving or codriving technique? Profiles on locals who fund their own efforts and have the skill to actually accomplish something? History of north american rally or rally in general?

And as others have pointed out, no mention of Canada or Mexico is another big minus.

Interview with David Higgins? How about an interview with Pat Richard? Even if he didn't do that great in Sweden, he's still North America's best hope at the moment (notice my kind inclusion of the USA)

I'll look through it if it's on someone's coffee table but I won't be buying one anytime soon sorry... at least until its a bit more unique or has something to offer the poor rally "amateur".

It looks to me like this is aimed at the "import tuner" market with articles about "what is rally?" and trying to get them to buy into the whole "I gotta gets me a bling bling Mitsubishi with a big wing!" mentality.

Skye Poier
Seattle, WA

Vive le Prole-le-Ralliat!
http://www.rallyrace.net/

 

[RussR]

Wow. So when you read the magazine, did the article on Sno Drift only cover the hired guns? Did they cover any club guys? I can't wait to read mine, I didn't get it yet...how did you get yours already to offer such a detailed criticism of why you won't buy it?

I can't believe they would have the nerve to interview the SCCA champion from last year, hell, they should've featured me, I finished ski sawmill last year.

Maybe we could wait to read the actual magazine before crucifying them for trying...sheesh....give them a fair chance...

what is it with the pacific northwest? you guys are rough!!!!

Russ

 

[Kevin Hawkinson]

>what is it with the pacific northwest? you guys are
>rough!!!!

It's that unbridled optimism that comes from 364 cloudy days a year.

And were still mad about those imperialist running-dog capitalists taking over the country. }>

 

[spoier]

Feel free to prove me wrong...

And I don't know the details of your rally effort but it can't be difficult to write something more engaging than the Higgins win.

Edit: PS: I read their website in detail, and I assume its an accurate reflection of what's going to be in the magazine.

Skye Poier
Seattle, WA

Vive le Prole-le-Ralliat!
http://www.rallyrace.net/

 

[Morgan]

While I agree with you that the magazine should be more North American biased than WRC, it would be a sure recipe to go out of business to cater the magazine to the grassroots competitors as there are maybe 1500 (a guess) people total. Why would you need a "how to" section? As a competitor/car builder, you should be/need to be a capable mechanic and if there are things you need help with, you have John Vanlandingham I for one would not trust a how to out of a magazine in situation where my life depended on it.
In order to survive any rally magazine would need to cater to the spectators and to the people who don't get to the rallies and don't compete, as they far out number the rally community, and a lot of those people happen to be from the import tuner market.
A magazine is supposed to be a regular publication which leaves room for stories on plenty of different people and levels of the sport in the future.

 

[fieldthis]

And it says "subscribe today to read these and more topics"

I would suspect there is more to the magazine than whats
on thier website!

If they gave you everything in the first issue it would be a book,
not a magazine.

Rob Field

 

[robin]

>While I agree with you that the magazine should be more
>North American biased than WRC, it would be a sure recipe to
>go out of business to cater the magazine to the grassroots
>competitors as there are maybe 1500 (a guess) people total.
(snip)

I have no objection to covering WRC - it's rallying and most of us are interested in it. Another sure recipe for going out of business, however, would be to ignore interested readers/competitors/series north of the border - a group of people which, despite the population of Canada being 1/10th that of the U.S., makes up a significant proportion of rally freaks on the continent. I won't judge a book by it's cover (I will get a copy of the magazine)

Basing my impressions soley from the content of the web site (it is their web site - designed to induce us to subscribe by painting a picture of what we'll get by subscribing...)- I find it galling as a Canadian rallyist, to see all this mention of "USA Rallying" with hardly any mention of Canada or Canadian rallying (I can hear Homer in the background chanting 'USA!, USA! ...')

"...features rally coverage in the United States, World Rally Championship and around the world..."

I guess we'll see.

Robin

 

[Morgan]

It does say next issue:

- Canadian Championship: Rallye Perce-Neige and Rallye Int'l
- Corona Rally