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I've been tempted in similar ways. It'd be a good ride for a "fun" effort. Not real competitive usually. I'd want some suspension travel if I were to do it, and I'd go 2wd I think. I'm not familiar with the class rules for "performance stock".

I know as a course car, a full size truck or sport Ute can often put down mid pack stage times overall, even without notes and driven "brisk" instead of fast.
As far as being competitive vs a car...in general I agree.

But if driven well..I think one could do ok.

One of my 2013 CRS rally school instructors,John Black, campaigns a 4 cylinder ranger in the same class as I am thinking about, and has done pretty well.

Not sure if he is still racing,but his 2015 and older results linked below

Usually 1st or 2nd in class, and some overall positions not bad either.

Finishes to retirement ratio not too bad either-right?

https://www.ewrc-results.com/profile/42472-john-black/




Not sure what year that Ranger is,but the pics show it's clearly a 2nd gen so that would be the awesomely durable twin I beam suspension, and the engine would be the lump known as the 2.3 lima(pinto),which depending on the 2nd gen year,would have started off with a either a whopping 98hp or a tire shredding 112hp.

Not sure if he has modded the engine,but "Internals" and tuning are free,everything else has to be stock,including manifolds-although they can be modified.

Curious what his final drive ratio is...

Also not sure if he has Increased travel at all.

Can't lengthen or bend beams or arms(or radius arms) in that class,but a taller coil and a longer shock within reason could gain a bit.

I'm looking at the newer 3rd gen 2.3 Duratec ranger for a few reasons.

3rd gens regular cab models received a 3" longer cab which gave a little more room in the interior.

And with a cage and my size(6'5" 300LBS now-but aiming for 265 "race weight"LOL) I'll need all the room I can get.

I looked at the extra cabs,but with the hundreds of extra LBS added, and especially the wheelbase going from a nice,rally appropriate 111 1/2" for the regular cab/6 ft bed to the silly Extended cab/6ft bed wheelbase of 126",that's just a hard pass for me.

Maybe if was a desert racing truck sure,but I'm already running a truck instead of a car,I need to watch the weight and don't want a super long wheelbase like that for rally.

Another reason is the lighter more modern duratec engine that weighs less than the lima and starts stock with 144 hp.

I've owned a few of these in Foci and Mazda's and they respond well to simple mods.

But I would have the later ranger/explorer A-Arm suspension instead of the I beams,so while I could play with bump vs droop, I can't really add travel.

Not as durable for sure as The I beams,but at least on paper-better handling- as they maintain much better camber and toe throughout the travel.

I worry about the ball joint strength on them a bit though.

Perhaps i can find an upgraded ball joint.

The arm has to be the stock arm.

Arm can be modded(not for length though),so I suppose would check with scrutineer to see if modding to fit an upgraded ball joint(if necessary)is doable.

Anyway-just looking at craigslist for now.

Been quite a few 2004 and up(better exhaust and intake manifolds starting that year)lately in the $2k to $4k range.

Between jobs right now(studio driver),but as soon as I get working again I'm picking one up.
 

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Bump for the truck guys

I’m looking at a craigslist ranger this weekend will bring helmet and tape measure

Pretty sure if I put the helmet on I’m not fitting with the stock seat but we’ll see.

Tape measure will be used to approximate how much lower I can get a race seat in there
 

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Bump for the truck guys

I’m looking at a craigslist ranger this weekend will bring helmet and tape measure

Pretty sure if I put the helmet on I’m not fitting with the stock seat but we’ll see.

Tape measure will be used to approximate how much lower I can get a race seat in there
Well that idea is out.

Cabins just too damn tight.
 

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Raise the roof? :)
More like lower the floor.

But once I did ponder if a “lift kit” for an NC Miata windshield and hardtop could be made, but then I thought about what would happen when I rolled the windows up and well.... just forget it.

May be a gurney bubble instead.
 

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Well now I’ve done it.

My stock class four-cylinder rwd plan just turned into a v8 4wd plan. At least for now.

I just picked up a Jeep ZJ four-wheel-drive with a 5.2.

No, I probably most likely won’t be rallying it. Too many driven wheels.

The plan is to run a couple times a year in the Super Stock class In the Time Trial event(and dirt drags but not the jump competition!)at my local run-what-you-brung short course track.
2wd and 4wd run in the same class.

And if I don’t destroy it, maybe do a little light to moderate four wheeling on the other weekends.

This event:

https://thejumpchamps.com/

https://youtu.be/ZtpUmcYA0E4




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Well that idea is out.

Cabins just too damn tight.
Whaaaa??!

There's rooms for days in an ranger!!

I mean, I have been living in an RX7, so anything at this point is huge inside! :)
 

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Also, this followed me home. ;)

My goal next year is to take my son and one of his friends rally crossing and auto crossing because he's turning 15 and he needs to learn to drive for real. Anyone can figure out where the lights are :)

Wheel Tire Vehicle Automotive parking light Car
 

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Nice Mazda!

Really wished a Ranger or Mazda would’ve worked out for me, but 6 foot five and 315 pounds me is just too cramped in one.

I mean I could daily one without a cage no problem.

It’s just not for me for a rally truck.

I’m back to checking the used rally car classifieds, as well as contemplating a CRS performance stock build of my 2.3 Focus ZX3.
 

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Nice Mazda!

Really wished a Ranger or Mazda would’ve worked out for me, but 6 foot five and 315 pounds me is just too cramped in one.

I mean I could daily one without a cage no problem.

It’s just not for me for a rally truck.

I’m back to checking the used rally car classifieds, as well as contemplating a CRS performance stock build of my 2.3 Focus ZX3.
Are you taking into consideration the fact the stock seat is painfully high? Like I'm fairly sure if i was sitting on the floor I would be staring at the center of the steering wheel.
 

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Yes,I’m factoring that in..

Especially the later ones I’ve been looking at -the stock seats are stupid high.

Side and rear roll cage to helmet clearance appears like it’s still going to be not good even with seats mounted to the floor.
 

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I know it would be great if I would go through the effort of putting an extended cab on a regular frame, but that's some work. I do wish I could bump the back wall out like 6 inches. I think that would make all the difference in the world
 
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