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WE DON' NEEEED NO STIIIIINKIN' PR DOOOOOODZ!
With apologies to the Bandito in Treasure of the Sierra Madre, but it seems too appropriate.
Hokay, the horribly ironically misnamed Spitzner is gone effevtively and everybody has fogotten the structural changes and thinks all will be rosy but remember, Spitzner was no leader, and apparantly from direct comuncations with some who have worked around him, had no plans whatsoever his entire time at SCCA.
He was by all accounts a tool of others for their purposes.
Some might say a stooge.
But call him whatever you like, makes no difference, the problem was and remains that this is a club and that despite some peoples really worrying disregard and contempt for the concept of membership control of a process (I wonder what they think of giving the right to votre to all those sub humans in the population?) the fact that a fellow with ZERO competition expeience in any form whatso ever was hired and APPEARANTLY given a free reign on the running of the show was and remains the problem.
There is nothing saying that another inexperienced ego maniac wanna be Junior Dave Richards could not be hired by WHO THE PUCK KNOWS, in What sort of vetting process who the hell knows, under what terms who knows, with what sort of limitations whop knows.
What I am suggesting is WHO SAYS WE NEED A Pro Rally Director?
This is an excellent time to reshuffle procedures and make a clean start of the Organisational structure of the Rally Department.
Regardless of what Richard M assertsd elsewhere, the BOD is not my voice, and in fact I have nothing to sat to or from cone-squishers and roadracers. Nothing except to call them silly weeenie boys since they don't getr sideways or spit gravel.
So here's some suggestion, we have the time to discuss them, so lets.
I suggest that the Rally Board be named Rally Board rather than PERPETUATE THE SILLY MYTH IMPLICT IN THE NAME PRO-RALLY.
I suggest the Board members shall have clearly limited times they shall serve.
I suggest that they shall draft procedures for making the positions elective, and recallable to avoid the decrease in morale and confidence shown in the sports future in the recent past with the regime of derSpitzner.
I suggest that there should be something in peoples background which might be imagined in a generous light to give then the appearance of competence in their area of responsibility, especially saftey and technical related areas which is clearly not the case currently.
I suggest that some form of a chain of command chart be made.And some sort of disclosure about who are their contributors or supporters.
I suggest that each new rule proposal shall be attached to a name on who suggested it, and what problem the rule is intended to address.
IE, who called for the 34mm restrictor, especially on DEMONSTRABLY false grounds as was stated and repeated.
Should those putting forward rules proposal maybe not be allowd to vote as the issues become a case of digging one's heels in to simply have one's way?
I suggest that the Rally board to comply with the rules so ably stated by Christian Edstrom that the offical place for offiocal notices shall be some SCCA site, that some of the computer geniuses here figure a way to make a box or something HERE which will always be a little part of SCCA, thereby making this site, the site which is in Fact the only place for discussion, a place where when we write it is simultaneously a letter to SCCA.
Discuss here, publish reviews at SCCA (with texts here as well, discuss here some more, and publish final conclusions both places.
Christain, the bajs-laws don't DIS-allow simultaneous discussion on both SCCA site and someplace else like here.
I suggest that the admitted and encouraged policy told to each new Rally department person not to post here because we may not be sophisticated enough to realise from mere reading when a position is a SCCA Policy decision is fundementally cynical and arrogant and shows the contempt for membership and the active contributors views, and the reccomendation s to nevert speak should be stopped.
I say the public discussion of rally related issues should be required rather than "send me an email" crap I have been told about.
I suggest that the Rally boards memebers should be asked, not wait and see if the ask, go and suggest that they should have at least 2 sign on names, one showing their offical capacity.
I suggest once again that the Forum Administartors set up a "rules clarification and inquiry section" where the rules can be discussed without egos getting huffy.
I further suggest since we have a defacto admission of the trivial differences between the performance of so-called pro vs many Club folks implicit in the intergrated seeding and speed factors things, and also that Press releases continually count all entries "Pro" and Club to inflate the impression of participation in the events, we drop the Club VERSUS Pro BS and call ALL events Rally.
And sorry I still think that we don't need a PR Dood.
And isn't the conflict of interests in having a married couple in two paid positions just about as obvious as hell?
John Vanlandingham
Seattle, WA. 98168
Vive le Prole-le-ralliat
Black Rocket Rally Tires
http://www.blackrockettires.com/
With apologies to the Bandito in Treasure of the Sierra Madre, but it seems too appropriate.
Hokay, the horribly ironically misnamed Spitzner is gone effevtively and everybody has fogotten the structural changes and thinks all will be rosy but remember, Spitzner was no leader, and apparantly from direct comuncations with some who have worked around him, had no plans whatsoever his entire time at SCCA.
He was by all accounts a tool of others for their purposes.
Some might say a stooge.
But call him whatever you like, makes no difference, the problem was and remains that this is a club and that despite some peoples really worrying disregard and contempt for the concept of membership control of a process (I wonder what they think of giving the right to votre to all those sub humans in the population?) the fact that a fellow with ZERO competition expeience in any form whatso ever was hired and APPEARANTLY given a free reign on the running of the show was and remains the problem.
There is nothing saying that another inexperienced ego maniac wanna be Junior Dave Richards could not be hired by WHO THE PUCK KNOWS, in What sort of vetting process who the hell knows, under what terms who knows, with what sort of limitations whop knows.
What I am suggesting is WHO SAYS WE NEED A Pro Rally Director?
This is an excellent time to reshuffle procedures and make a clean start of the Organisational structure of the Rally Department.
Regardless of what Richard M assertsd elsewhere, the BOD is not my voice, and in fact I have nothing to sat to or from cone-squishers and roadracers. Nothing except to call them silly weeenie boys since they don't getr sideways or spit gravel.
So here's some suggestion, we have the time to discuss them, so lets.
I suggest that the Rally Board be named Rally Board rather than PERPETUATE THE SILLY MYTH IMPLICT IN THE NAME PRO-RALLY.
I suggest the Board members shall have clearly limited times they shall serve.
I suggest that they shall draft procedures for making the positions elective, and recallable to avoid the decrease in morale and confidence shown in the sports future in the recent past with the regime of derSpitzner.
I suggest that there should be something in peoples background which might be imagined in a generous light to give then the appearance of competence in their area of responsibility, especially saftey and technical related areas which is clearly not the case currently.
I suggest that some form of a chain of command chart be made.And some sort of disclosure about who are their contributors or supporters.
I suggest that each new rule proposal shall be attached to a name on who suggested it, and what problem the rule is intended to address.
IE, who called for the 34mm restrictor, especially on DEMONSTRABLY false grounds as was stated and repeated.
Should those putting forward rules proposal maybe not be allowd to vote as the issues become a case of digging one's heels in to simply have one's way?
I suggest that the Rally board to comply with the rules so ably stated by Christian Edstrom that the offical place for offiocal notices shall be some SCCA site, that some of the computer geniuses here figure a way to make a box or something HERE which will always be a little part of SCCA, thereby making this site, the site which is in Fact the only place for discussion, a place where when we write it is simultaneously a letter to SCCA.
Discuss here, publish reviews at SCCA (with texts here as well, discuss here some more, and publish final conclusions both places.
Christain, the bajs-laws don't DIS-allow simultaneous discussion on both SCCA site and someplace else like here.
I suggest that the admitted and encouraged policy told to each new Rally department person not to post here because we may not be sophisticated enough to realise from mere reading when a position is a SCCA Policy decision is fundementally cynical and arrogant and shows the contempt for membership and the active contributors views, and the reccomendation s to nevert speak should be stopped.
I say the public discussion of rally related issues should be required rather than "send me an email" crap I have been told about.
I suggest that the Rally boards memebers should be asked, not wait and see if the ask, go and suggest that they should have at least 2 sign on names, one showing their offical capacity.
I suggest once again that the Forum Administartors set up a "rules clarification and inquiry section" where the rules can be discussed without egos getting huffy.
I further suggest since we have a defacto admission of the trivial differences between the performance of so-called pro vs many Club folks implicit in the intergrated seeding and speed factors things, and also that Press releases continually count all entries "Pro" and Club to inflate the impression of participation in the events, we drop the Club VERSUS Pro BS and call ALL events Rally.
And sorry I still think that we don't need a PR Dood.
And isn't the conflict of interests in having a married couple in two paid positions just about as obvious as hell?
John Vanlandingham
Seattle, WA. 98168
Vive le Prole-le-ralliat
Black Rocket Rally Tires
http://www.blackrockettires.com/
