PRD is final authority for rules - did you know?

>I should clarify, when I said politics, I was referring to
>how the SCCA wants to have this hand-in-the-cookie-jar
>approach toward promoting events that should be promoted by
>the organizers who in turn should be able to turn a profit.
>As a sanctioning body, the SCCA is just that, and insurer
>and provider of rules based on the particulars of that
>insurance. The SCCA has hijacked the business of promoting
>and profiting, in essence leaving the organizers (the ones
>who do all the work, mind you) to flail about with little to
>show for their efforts or even debt.
>
>NASA has vocally taken a hands-off approach to sanctioning
>and hopefully it will stay that way.
>
>CP
>
>EDIT: typo
One of these organizations is a not for profit corporation and one is a for profit corporation to the best of my knowledge. Which is which?
Richard Miller

The rule clearly incapacitates the PRB.

The rule makes the PRB a nonfunctional entity.

With the rule in place we all waste countless hours petitioning the PRB, making recomendations to the PRB, discussing the pros and cons of various situations with the PRB.

The PRB will prove that they are not empowered by not removing the rule, or not being able to remove the rule.

These are intelligent people, but so long as the PRD holds the trump card they are powerless to act on behalf of the rallyists.

How can the PRB not be disgusted with this rule?
How can the PRB genuinely think they are making strides for the betterment of the sport with this rule in place?

Until this rule is removed, we would all be better addressing all correspondence to the PRD directly or the BoD directly. The PRB has no power to enact anything.

WAKE UP PEOPLE -- it is your club, the members club, with this rule in place we as a club have somehow elected a group of people who hired a group of people and then gave them final authority over the club. How are we all so stupid as to be paying members of a club that is run by a group of people who does not have to answer to the paying members. 65,000 people blindly sending money to pay people for what?

Unfortunately the PRB is going to prove that they are non-functional by doing nothing about this rule. I have not figured out how or what effort I will make to solve this problem, but if there is a solution I will eventually find it or become so disgusted that I no longer participate in the SCCA in any capacity. If as a member I cannot work with other members of the club to guide its direction, there is not much point in being a member. There is far less point in taking time out of my life to work to improve anything when in the end I will have no choice but to take directions from the paid administrative staff.

Disenchanted and Disgusted,
Mike

Ahhh once again clarity from Comrade Tabor

>It says Performance Rally Department, not Performance Rally
>Director, which is Kurt's official title.

Once again Thanks for bring to the lumpen-prole-le-ralliat clarity when all these people use all these goddamm acronym things.

Can't for Clarity's sake all you folks just write out the proper name Spitzner, or the title more properly "der Spitzner"or the rather unwieldy but oh so exact "the horribly ironically mis-named Spitzner", or the rather revvealing "PRDood" to differentiate between the person and the Department. That is specially appropriate since that was the alleged expertise that got him hire in the first palce and which he failed miserably, no _shamefully_, but not surprisingly.

So how about this: Call the _person_ if you can't bring yourself to use his name by the personal pronoun: The PRDood?
OR, as befits the thinking of the man who said and I quote "You can't have the lunatics running the asylum" closet grandiouse visions,
call him OHK and the department OHL, which for you folk who for some reason never read your history in school, Oberste Heeres Kommandant, and Oberste Heeres Leitung. (OK! Over-est Army Commandant, and Over-est Army Headquarters, happy now?)

So then we'd have:
PRB Pro Rally Board
PrDood or OHK for Spitzner
OHL for the Departement.


>
>So. The question now is, who makes up the Performance Rally
>Department? I know that Doug and Sue Robinson are part of
>that department; not sure where the Performance Rally Board
>falls here. Are they part of the department, and if not,
>why not??
>
>Lots of confusion abounds in the Performance Rally rule
>book...
>
>I have this visual of Doug, Sue and Kurt sitting around in
>some Topeka pizza parlor deciding the fate of the rules over
>a couple beers and greasy pepperoni pizza.... scary...
>don't we call that a dictatorship?? A triumverate??

"Der Spitzner" said what's needed is a benevolent dictator.....

Those that don't agree should go look at the link posted by the surprisingly astute for a young Volvo driver Nick over on off topic "for Political discussion take 2" as the visions of how things should be established and run is connected to the views one has about the ability of people toward self goverance even in voluntary recreational activities.

>
>KT
>kd7yct
CCCP un-oafish-al Commisar in Charge of Clarifing Perplexities





John Vanlandingham
Seattle, WA. 98168

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

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PRB

>So then we'd have:
>PRB Pro Rally Board

ummm, would you believe "Performance Rally Board"?

"Pro" is so restrictive.... The PRB serves all SCCA rallyists, not just the Pros.

(Well, okay, all performance rallyists, not counting those cool TSD road rallyists.... Ouch, my head hurts. "Well then, stop smacking it with a hammer," another little voice tells me. "You can keep it all straight if you try.")

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Edit: got the words right and the initials wrong!