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In the endless discussions of what if this 34mm resstrictor vs what if that, Pat Richard argues that it really shouldn't make a big difference if all turbo cars were restricted to 34mm, because it would cap costs.
Well Pat, try and bear in mind that the 34mm and 32mm cars you and a very few select number of guys who are making some pretty OK results with are restricted motors which are bolted up to some really pretty darn good gearboxes (in terms of ratios, and spacing, not reliability!!!) and pretty nice useful final drives.
Sorry to lecture but I think the whole powertrain needs to be looked at, not merely the motor.
If YOU have the income to buy a current car, or two or three,a nd buy the latest gearboxes, then you aren't hurt so much by the fact that the the motor is strangled.
The motor may only make xxx ft/lbs, but your gearbox helps you keep the motor on the boil, and your final drive helps that thing go good in the upper gears.
I don't have the budget or the interest to build a Homologated car, it has been a stretch to build an exprired GpN and a halfish car (while moving, buying a house, getting married, restarting a business, etc).
And i don't have the budget for 2 close ratio gearsets, or alternate final drives.
As long as my Cossie motor is at 40mm, I don't worry at all because my motor will be able to make a sheeet load more ft/lbs AND since it can rev, it will make HP, and the stand road car gearbox and final drive ratios will be OK.
You presume Pat that everybody has optimum gearbox and final drives.
Only two manufacturers currently market cars optimised for GpN, and it is devastatingly boring to watch a 2 pony show.
The reasonable thing to do would be to build a GpN car or a 34mm restrited car IF THAT"S WHAT YOU WANT.
But don't strangle me.
Now it should be said that the drive for this 34mm was in fact a now departed obnoxious fellow from Plo-dive USA who wrote a letter directly to "Risk Assesment" and eveidently lied, in his typical way, that this would slow cars down, circumventing the PRB, and this is where the drive for this rule comes from, not from some data, pratical experience, or accident history.
The _POLITICAL_ nature of the rules making process needs to be brought to light so the merits of the whole subject can be discussed in a honest context, but within that, and regarding Pat's long standing advocacy of capping motors, well, thats just where performance starts.
It is multiplied downstream.
You have a class, be satisfied; stop trying to kill MY class.
John Vanlandingham
Seattle, WA. 98168
Vive le Prole-le-ralliat
Well Pat, try and bear in mind that the 34mm and 32mm cars you and a very few select number of guys who are making some pretty OK results with are restricted motors which are bolted up to some really pretty darn good gearboxes (in terms of ratios, and spacing, not reliability!!!) and pretty nice useful final drives.
Sorry to lecture but I think the whole powertrain needs to be looked at, not merely the motor.
If YOU have the income to buy a current car, or two or three,a nd buy the latest gearboxes, then you aren't hurt so much by the fact that the the motor is strangled.
The motor may only make xxx ft/lbs, but your gearbox helps you keep the motor on the boil, and your final drive helps that thing go good in the upper gears.
I don't have the budget or the interest to build a Homologated car, it has been a stretch to build an exprired GpN and a halfish car (while moving, buying a house, getting married, restarting a business, etc).
And i don't have the budget for 2 close ratio gearsets, or alternate final drives.
As long as my Cossie motor is at 40mm, I don't worry at all because my motor will be able to make a sheeet load more ft/lbs AND since it can rev, it will make HP, and the stand road car gearbox and final drive ratios will be OK.
You presume Pat that everybody has optimum gearbox and final drives.
Only two manufacturers currently market cars optimised for GpN, and it is devastatingly boring to watch a 2 pony show.
The reasonable thing to do would be to build a GpN car or a 34mm restrited car IF THAT"S WHAT YOU WANT.
But don't strangle me.
Now it should be said that the drive for this 34mm was in fact a now departed obnoxious fellow from Plo-dive USA who wrote a letter directly to "Risk Assesment" and eveidently lied, in his typical way, that this would slow cars down, circumventing the PRB, and this is where the drive for this rule comes from, not from some data, pratical experience, or accident history.
The _POLITICAL_ nature of the rules making process needs to be brought to light so the merits of the whole subject can be discussed in a honest context, but within that, and regarding Pat's long standing advocacy of capping motors, well, thats just where performance starts.
It is multiplied downstream.
You have a class, be satisfied; stop trying to kill MY class.
John Vanlandingham
Seattle, WA. 98168
Vive le Prole-le-ralliat