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Okay,

Food for thought about next year's schedule:

Every "east-coast" person I've spoken too has said (to put it nicely)
that Rally NY doesn't have what it takes to be a national ProRally event.
(people who were there last year)

Lemme see:

Jan - Sno Drift

March - Is there no chance for Doo **** 1&2 to return as a national ?

Early June - STPR
Late June - Pikes Peak (Rally ???)
Late July - Maine
Late Aug - Ojibwe
Mid Sept - Wild West and Oregon ???
Oct - LSPR

Prescott ???

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Well, the obvious hole is the late Winter and early Spring.

I can't imagine why the organizers wouldn't want to take advantage of the fresh early-year rally budgets. By the time Aug-Sep rolls around, everybody has had to swallow repairs and other unexpected expenses. Here in NEDiv we've got Black River and Irish Hills at the same time, then Maine Winter after that.

And as for Irish Hills becoming a National: that's just what NEDiv DOESN'T need.
 

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>I can't imagine why the organizers wouldn't want to take
>advantage of the fresh early-year rally budgets. By the time
>Aug-Sep rolls around, everybody has had to swallow repairs
>and other unexpected expenses.

Most organizers are locked into their dates by the folks who own the roads. Ojibwe Forests is moving back to the weekend before Labor Day ONLY because the Minnesota DNR moved the start of bear season. We have no other weekends available.

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Well if I had my druthers, something in California or Nevada would fit into April, Oregon Trail would look good in May and Wild West would be perfect in early June.

This business of scheduling western rallies in the worst of the fire-danger season has always seemed dumb to me, but on the other hand maybe there is only one weekend a year when PA is habitable.

Just keep yer hands off our Doo ****, we don't need no national politics, we got the best rally stage west (or east) of Finland. The [link:www.nwr-scca.org/rally/doowop/brooklyn.html|Road to Brooklyn] will make you forget the nationals.

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Curious About Next Year's Schedule

I noticed you show Oregon in September. How hard and fast is that time frame? I've heard rumors about a date change (brought up at the Rim Town Hall), but wasn't aware it would be so dramatic. What about additional events dropping off the National calendar?
 

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RE: Curious About Next Year's Schedule

>I noticed you show Oregon in September. How hard and fast
>is that time frame? I've heard rumors about a date change
>(brought up at the Rim Town Hall), but wasn't aware it would
>be so dramatic.

It is far from decided... September is pretty doubtful, however, due to hunting season and usual fire danger.

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>Wild West would be perfect in early June.
>This business of scheduling western rallies in the worst of
>the fire-danger season has always seemed dumb to me, but on
>the other hand maybe there is only one weekend a year when
>PA is habitable.

You are probably right.


>Just keep yer hands off our Doo ****

GIVE ME BACK OUR DOO **** !!!
Has there been any consideration to re-making it a national ?
(rather than repeating 25 miles of stages in New York Four {4} Times
to create 100 miles of stages, half tarmac, half gravel, with
no tire changes ? )

Are there any other West Coast competitors who care at all that
"our" national series which used to have four events West of the Rockies
is now being proposed to be made up of SIX events "east" of
the Mississippi ?
(only two West Coast events and single 12.5 mile stage in Colorado ?)
{I'm assuming that Pikes Peak will be the same as last year,
I have heard nothing but speculation as to the possibility
of having an actual ProRally event around it}

;-) Just being the Devil's advocate, seeking enlightenment ... ;-)
 

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RE: Curious About Next Year's Schedule

doo **** is perfect as a club event. any natonal competiors are welcome to come run this rally. doo **** is by far te most fun of all the washington purley from a spectator standpoint. and natonal rallies suck for spectators! Wild west two spectator stages a day! not fresh. leave our corner alone. the western states series seems sweet but the last thing we need is more national subaru bullroar!
 

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RE: Curious About Next Year's Schedule

Everyone should go to Ramada Express, they should beg Ray and Roger to make it a national!





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>Everyone should go to Ramada Express, they should beg Ray
>and Roger to make it a national!
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Ramada is just fine by itself and as a part of CNAR. Making it a part of the SCCA National Rally Championship would only bring unnecessary headaches and aggravations to Ray and Roger.

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RE: Curious About Next Year's Schedule

How about making Laughlin/Ramada a ClubRally? Then those of us from NORPAC, who come down anyway, can earn out-of-division points! It's already a CRS event, so why not make the trip more worthwhile for other NWR competitors!

I mean, we love it and will probably compete/work this year, again, but to increase attendance!

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RE: Curious About Next Year's Schedule

Didn't I hear a rumor that it was going to be an SCCA
ClubRally points event ????
 

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OK, I just gotta ask:

Do all the events on the list belong on the list?

Why was Presott Removed, Why was Sunriser Removed?

Do all our current events have their ducks in a row? Do they all deserve to be national caliber events?

Stiring the stinky pot, and hanging myself,
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>How about making Laughlin/Ramada a ClubRally? Then those of
>us from NORPAC, who come down anyway, can earn
>out-of-division points! It's already a CRS event, so why
>not make the trip more worthwhile for other NWR competitors!
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>I mean, we love it and will probably compete/work this year,
>again, but to increase attendance!
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>Mark Tabor
>www.taborrallyteam.com

Evidently you don't talk to your family much? :)

WSRC sounds like the ticket... cause you are on Norpac, and Ramada express will be included in the series... The co-efficient 3 day anyway...
 

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>Well, the obvious hole is the late Winter and early Spring.
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>I can't imagine why the organizers wouldn't want to take
>advantage of the fresh early-year rally budgets. By the time
>Aug-Sep rolls around, everybody has had to swallow repairs
>and other unexpected expenses. Here in NEDiv we've got Black
>River and Irish Hills at the same time, then Maine Winter
>after that.
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>And as for Irish Hills becoming a National: that's just what
>NEDiv DOESN'T need.

Is there any chance of 100AW becomming a national event? It would fit in that "obvious hole" nicely. Although, then it would probably no longer be able to be the CNRC, and it was such a nice, central location.
 

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>Do all our current events have their ducks in a row? Do they
>all deserve to be national caliber events?

It depends on what you mean by national caliber. Every national event I've been to has had some features that are not national-caliber, but has had others that are. Some are better than others. None of them had problems that I would think should exclude them from being part of an amateur national championship. Since the people who put them on are not paid to do so, the little eccentricities of events are acceptable (and even welcomed) as long as they don't impact the safety of the participants. It is part of the adventure that is rallying.

I don't think that I have been to an event that is of a caliber to be a part of a professional national championship, but since we don't have one of those, and since we don't compensate the organizers enough to justify them expending the effort required, it doesn't bother me.

>Stiring the stinky pot, and hanging myself,
Seconded. Hopefully I haven't offended any of the event organizers.
Adrian
 
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