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I fully admit I know exactly crap about organizing a rally, but I was thinking that, in the future, maybe some of the tribal lands might be good if other lands are no longer available. just a 'first cup of coffee, checking SS' thought. I imagine others have already thought this, especially in New England, where roads can be scarce and there are several tribes with substantial land holdings. Imagine, a rally in RI or CT with HQ at Foxwoods or Mohegan Sun. Okay, I'm done dreaming, back to reality
 

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Yes, that is possible especially if it is tribal lands that also have a casino and hotel. Pick a weekend when business is traditionally slow. And hope they have good roads.
 

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It's been done in the past. Ramada Express ran mostly on the land of the Hualipai (sp) Indians around the Grand Canyon in AZ. Shooting Star rally in Minnesota HQ'd at the Shooting Star Casino although ran on state forest roads.

Agree this is a good possibility assuming there are organizers in the areas of these reservations, the areas are close enough for ralliests to come to, the roads are appropriate for rally, and the Indians are receptive & don't want too much money for using their roads.
 

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Many of the roads used for Ojibwe Forests are on tribal land, but the roads themselves (and thus the permissions) are administered by the DNR. You'll find that this situation is not uncommon.

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The relationship sometimes only lasts as long as it takes for the tribe to figure out that
all those people spend very little time (and less money) at the tables.
 

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Never even thought of this Dan... I know some people at Mohegan that are involved with their drag car.. i'll mention it sometime when i ever see them again...
 

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The Saturday stages at Olympus have been held on Quinault Indian Nation land the past two years and service has been in Tahola. We have a very good relationship.
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I obviously had the business model all wrong.
I'm not so sure you are wrong Bruce. There is probably some truth to your statement about gambling as well as Richards statement about rooms.

Probably depends on the Casino but, from my knothole, the Casinos depend more on gambling income than filling rooms with non-gamblers. After all, high dollar gamblers get free rooms but, people using expensive rooms don't get free gambling.:D
 

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The object is to fill hotel rooms. Any extra money extracted at the tables is a bonus.
I don't think I'd agree with this... Rooms have a marginal cost associated with them (cleaning, etc.). People pouring money into a casino really don't.

The most important thing to remember about Indian lands is that the tribes are not necessarily motivated by the same things that other landowners are, and if you think county, state, or federal government bureaucracies are nebulous...

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In my first posting in this thread, I said that you have to pick a time when the hotel was slow. Obviously if it is a time of year when the hotel is full, why would they want a rally there?

Casinos do many things to attract people. They have shows, run busses from the big cities, advertise loose slots, etc. People that come to see the shows may not gamble either but the casinos still do that.

Those organizers that "know" a casino hotel won't want to help with a rally should ask them. You might be surprised. Or maybe you have already done that and found that the particular casino hotel you approached wasn't interested. Don't dismiss the idea without trying it. I am going to try it one of these days with the casinos just across the Red River in Oklahoma.
 

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I'd probably lose an entry fee at Blackjack. I know I have before. I've also won an entry fee too though. If I'm entering, you can pretty realistically expect me to spend at least 200-300 at the table. Get me drunk and it might be more. :)
It's likely no different than trying to seduce a city/township.
 

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There are some tribes that are not receptive to the use of their roads...plus IF they have historic Indian artifacts near the roads...they might not be so keen to want you racing by them and possibly tear up their heritage...we have had that problem at Desert Storm BUT we have solved the problem by doing extra time in making sure each year we take care of their historical/heritage sites. This tribe is the most political tribe in the nation and the most influential...we do have a person who helps to be our liason to them to ensure we take care of the area and reports back to them if any damages have surcumb to the sites.
 
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