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RE: LSPR - Let's Save Performance Rallying

With all due respect, Mike. Why should we glorify the organization that has dumped us out like so much distasteful day old coffee? Let's celebrate by looking forward instead.

Let's Save Performance Rallying

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With all due respect, Kent, SCCA has been around from day one in 1973. They helped us get started, they saw us through some terrible times, some of their own making, some of our own making. But they stuck by us, probably longer than they should have considering we are less than 10% of the club. You and many others will hate hearing this but whatever we become in the future, no matter how successful, we'll owe it to the SCCA, if not for helping us get started but for finally kicking us out the door and becoming whatever we become, which I hope will be wildly successful.

I feel dumped too, and in no why am I screaming this at you in particular or to anyone else directly, it's not personal; but I want to say, "Stop looking back people, now is the time to look forward." (I actually "said" it while typing!)

If I was planning on it in the first place I'd be at LSPR to celebrate the end of something that has given me more pleasure than heartache, good... no, GREAT friends! Really great friends! For that alone it was worth everything we went through before.

Next on the soapbox will be....

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RE: LSPR - Let's Save Performance Rallying

>With all due respect, Mike. Why should we glorify the
>organization that has dumped us out like so much distasteful
>day old coffee? Let's celebrate by looking forward instead.
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>Let's Save Performance Rallying
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>Kent Gardam

Jeez. I'm just trying to lighten the mood a touch Kent. About 90% of the discussion here since the announcement has been pointing fingers, assigning blame and whining about how bad ole SCCA screwed us. I find all this pissin & moanin about as productive as glancing in the mirror at an autocross to see if that pylon tipped over. In either instance there's f--- all that can be done about what's done, but we can damned sure make up our minds to put the past behind us and start aiming these caterwauling energies at something productive, helpful and centered on the future - if we care to have one.

In the meantime, I wish it were possible for me to run the Last Scca Pro Rally since I missed the first one ...

Halley ...
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RE: LSPR - Let's Save Performance Rallying

>In the meantime, I wish it were possible for me to run the
>Last Scca Pro Rally since I missed the first one ...
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Is there anyone still active who ran the 1973 Rally du Noir?
 

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>In the meantime, I wish it were possible for me to run the
>Last Scca Pro Rally since I missed the first one ...
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>Halley ...
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It looks like the last SCCA performance rally is going to be Rallye de Paris (two Cof.2's) on Thanksgiving weekend.
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I heard rumor of a tarmac rally in California in December...
 

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Naw - It took the Stratos' coming to POR in '74 to bring Jimmy in.
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RE: LSPR - Let's Save Performance Rallying

>With all due respect, Kent, SCCA has been around from day
>one in 1973.

>John Elkin

Thanks for the history lesson, John. I remember 1973 well. My wife and I got married that year (the day before Sunriser as a matter of fact) and we managed to run two of the PRO Rallies, Sunriser and SnowDrift, not to mention also running all over the state of Michigan for three very long days and nights in the same field as the factory teams at POR that year. It was heady times for newly married twenty somethings making about 7500 bucks a year. Yeah, I remember great times, good times and not so great times through the years. Universally, the people involved in rallying have been some of the best people I have met in my life and I cherish them all. But I prefer to look forward to those people and organizations that will support us for the future, not celebrate the one organization that has let us down.

And by the way unmless work interferes, I still expect to be in Houghton to help by working the rally in two weeks.

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RE: LSPR - Let's Save Performance Rallying

>In the meantime, I wish it were possible for me to run the
>Last Scca Pro Rally since I missed the first one ...
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>Halley ...

I'll hoist one for you in the Library, Mike.

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RE: LSPR - Let's Save Performance Rallying

>>In the meantime, I wish it were possible for me to run the
>>Last Scca Pro Rally since I missed the first one ...
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>>Halley ...
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>I'll hoist one for you in the Library, Mike.
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>Kent Gardam

Thanks bud. I'll be thinking of ya'all all weekend.

Halley ...
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Actually Doug, it's on Sat 20 Nov and will probably be the last Club event. With some good management for us in the future, it is hoped that it will become a bi-annual event, maybe a 2 day event if the support is there. I can but try!


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Awww man, now I'm going to have to get a tarmac setup! :D

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C'mon Doug, You know you can't wait! PS. Check your PM.


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Only about 15 cars actually ran the Rally Du Noir.

I worked service crew for Rich and Linda Merritt.

Without looking it up, I think Scott Harvey Sr. won.

I actually have a number of strong memories because of a number of things that occurred along the way. Darryl Holder was the rallymaster I believe.

The rally took place not long after the Arab oil embargo and we drove down from Columbus, Ohio, uncertain whether we would be able to get any gasoline along the way. At the time, Dick Nixon was telling everyone that it was un-American to drive more than 55 and to waste gasoline.

Anyway, we had about 8 zillion gas cans strapped everywhere to the cars. In those days, only a few teams trailered, we drove the service vehicle and rally car separately.

The only place we could find any coffee at 3 a.m. on the way down was at a porn shop at a truck stop somewhere in Tennessee. It was my first trip inside a porn store, and at that point, I was so tired, I didn't really care.

The rally was laid out in such a way that we got to spectate a lot of stages while still running service. I remember the stages as smooth flowing gravel and really nice.
 

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>I actually have a number of strong memories because of a
>number of things that occurred along the way.

Do you remember an orange 911 Targa with black doors? Don Goss was the owner (probably driver) in either the '72 or '73 POR. The car was from Connecticut. I don't know if it finished or not.

I purchased the car in November or December of '73, and would love to hear anything about it.

What time of the year was the POR run in '72 and '73?

Thanks
 
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