[spoier]

Lifted from another board...........
Apparently they are considering a 2006 entry to the WRC.
- Skye
PS: hint hint possible single make series sponsor?

Kia are making their European competition debut in the Andros Trophee ice racing series with the Rio. It will be driven by 6 times champion and current BTCC champion Yvan Muller.

http://ffsa.turbo.m6.fr/images/news/20031031105551.jpg

 

[John Vanlandingham]

And who owns Kia????
Give ya a hint, ith rhymes with sunday.
And where are they, now??

Anyway the Ardros and Chamonix Ice races are really insane nut-o-la full sick 4wd and 4wheelsteering things but as prototypes with no other motorsport use, I wouldn't start salivating yet.

John Vanlandingham
Seattle, WA. 98168

Vive le Prole-le-ralliat

Black Rocket Rally Tires
http://www.blackrockettires.com/

 

[spoier]

Huh didn't know they were the same as Hyundai... can't keep all these mega-corps straight. Free market competition... yeah

Well at least it is based on a car that is being sold here right now, maybe something will happen in a few years if Kia sticks to their plan

Skye

 

[Mark Holden]

Hyundai was owned by the South Korean government. Kia went bankrupt in 1998, while Hyundai was still owned by the government. The government more or less bouth out Kia to keep it in existance and made it part of Hyundai, and shortly thereafter spun Hyundai off on it's own.

So Kia didn't become part of Hyundai in the traditional sense, but they do share at least one platform, and in fact seem to be positioning themselves with Hyundai taking the higher end and Kia filling the niche Hyundai originally had.

-Mark Holden

 

[breon]

Does Kia still share platforms with Ford/Mazda? Thinking back to the old 121/festiva/aspire/pride days.

 

[grinner323]

Or the Escort/old Protege/Sephia frames.

Philip J. Boer
grinner323(at)sbcglobal(dot)net

 

[Widget Codriver]

Wait a minute, I thought Kia ran a Production class Sephia in the '97 or '98 SCCA PRO Rally season.

Lon Peterson drove, Bill Gutzman codrove, and Dave Wolin operated the team. Don't remember whether they won the championship or not (it was a little before my time).

[hr]

[p align=right]John Dillon
John @ WidgetRacing.com
www.WidgetRacing.com

 

[Matt]

Wasn't that a Daewoo Lanos?

 

[Mad Mike]

>Wait a minute, I thought Kia ran a Production class Sephia
>in the '97 or '98 SCCA PRO Rally season.
>
>Lon Peterson drove, Bill Gutzman codrove, and Dave Wolin
>operated the team. Don't remember whether they won the
>championship or not (it was a little before my time).
>
>[hr]
>
>[p align=right]John Dillon
>John @ WidgetRacing.com
>www.WidgetRacing.com

http://www.davewolin.com/images/lon1.jpg

Halley ...
Owner/Driver ProRally #86 - world's first New Beetle Rally Car
RealAutoSport, LLC
http://www.realautosport.com

 

[Mad Mike]

http://www.davewolin.com/images/kia3.jpg

Halley ...
Owner/Driver ProRally #86 - world's first New Beetle Rally Car
RealAutoSport, LLC
http://www.realautosport.com

 

[Mad Mike]

>Wasn't that a Daewoo Lanos?

The Daewoo team appeared during the 1999 season and disappeared at the end of the season.

Halley ...
Owner/Driver ProRally #86 - world's first New Beetle Rally Car
RealAutoSport, LLC
http://www.realautosport.com

 

[tifosi77]

there are people that race Daewoo Lanos, I believe they use the mitsu AWD drivetrain because they do convert them to AWD

 

[wvonkessler]

Look at the KIA closely . . . boy, that was when ProRally had a title sponsor . . . must be a really old pic.

Wilson

 

[DonSwier]

> . . . must be a really old pic.

I know yours is a rhetorical question, but the year was '96.

 

[Trevor Donison]

>Wait a minute, I thought Kia ran a Production class Sephia
>in the '97 or '98 SCCA PRO Rally season.
>
>Lon Peterson drove, Bill Gutzman codrove, and Dave Wolin
>operated the team. Don't remember whether they won the
>championship or not (it was a little before my time).
>
>[hr]
>
>[p align=right]John Dillon
>John @ WidgetRacing.com
>www.WidgetRacing.com

Manufacturer Champion in Production, Yes
Co-Driver Champion in Production, Yes
Lon with one wheel drive 108 horspower against an all conqering Prelude, No (but just barely, it came down to "most wins" tiebreaker).

But they did ban the Prelude immediatly after that. That still doesn't make sense, because Jeffy and I are running more powerful cars now.

 

[Trevor Donison]

>>Wasn't that a Daewoo Lanos?
>
>The Daewoo team appeared during the 1999 season and
>disappeared at the end of the season.
>
>Halley ...
>Owner/Driver ProRally #86 - world's first New Beetle Rally
>Car
>RealAutoSport, LLC
>http://www.realautosport.com

Yep and I was all prepared to Protest them if they had shown up in 2000. When you can keep up with Henry Krowlikowski in the Shadow (within a minute after both days combined) in Henry's back yard, then your Production car is a little on the warm side under the hood.

And, the Daewoo only won Manufacturers Championship because VW didn't pony up the money to SCCA, even the Neons combined beat the Daewoo. An example of the 3rd place Manufacturer buying first place.

 

[Trevor Donison]

Lon Won Gorman Ridge Clubrally in that car too. Beat Bill Malik and Ron Wood straight up.

 

[wvonkessler]

>
>> . . . must be a really old pic.
>
>I know yours is a rhetorical question, but the year was '96.

'96 was the year that I realized that there was rally in the US. I remember reading about the car. I guess I have to dig up some of the magazines from back then (which are in boxes from 2 separate moves).

Wilson