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Just curious, its on my list of possible relocation spots (currently in US) but pending the whole maintaining a visa to then get a job and therefore the ability to stay is an issue. But more over, how is living in Canada? I know very little even though i lived just across Lake Erie for years.
 

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Hey! what part of Canada? I love it here in the west, but I havent been to the east really to much, or the states....so not the most informed opinion!
 

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alberta is the place , lowest sales and income tax in canada, lowest unemployment high wages and a great rally community
 

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Most of Eastern Canada are in the blawwwwsssss as we depend on exporting stuff to the US and you folks aren't livin it up these days. Alberta has the oil to pump (Saskatchewan too) so they are hopping.


Taxes are much higher than the US and a lot of things are more expensive (like car parts, cars, consumer electronics, etc.) Still one of the top 5 places to live in the world.
 

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But, you get all kinds of different things:
"free" health care
shorter election periods
minimum Canadian content on radio stations (did I mention Celine Dion)
Scopolamine over the counter
lesser percentage DEET
more places where radar detectors are illegal
Toronto traffic (with no viable bypass)
CBC
Canadian beer
Air Canada
Ladas
you can legally drive 100
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Taxes are much higher than the US and a lot of things are more expensive (like car parts, cars, consumer electronics, etc.) Still one of the top 5 places to live in the world.
 

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Most of Eastern Canada are in the blawwwwsssss as we depend on exporting stuff to the US and you folks aren't livin it up these days. Alberta has the oil to pump (Saskatchewan too) so they are hopping.
Oh god, please whatever you do don't move to Saskatchewan. It's like Alberta, with virtually none of the benefits...
 

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Based on visiting friends who live in the NE US and living in the Toronto area, I'd say that you wouldn't see a lot of difference from a general point of view, but there are differences in just about every detail - some better and some worse. Jimmy mentioned some of them. You would have higher taxes for sure.

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Quebec has poutine. The rest of Canada has poor attempts at copying poutine.

I don't know if it is important to you or not but gun culture is vastly different. Carry permits (open or concealed) are virtually unheard of (Ontario issued 13 concealed carry permits in 2005). If this is important to you, and it is to some, you won't be comfortable or happy in Canada. (let alone the idea that the lack of carry permits is a source of comfort for many in Canada)
 

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Three letters- GST. On the up side you might hear The Arrogant Worms on the radio. Or not.
It is HST in a lot of the country now (H = harmonized), 13% in Ontario. Quebec is an exception with separate 5% GST (federal) and 8.5% PST (provincial) taxes. They also charge their PST on the total of the purchase price + GST - i.e. they tax the GST.

Adrian
 

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I've lived in Toronto for just over a year now. I love it here. But I did grow up in Detroit, so going to Canada and all things Canadian are what I'm used to.

Lots of people will complain about cost of living, particularly in Toronto. My take is that it's no more expensive than any other large NA city. In fact, housing is much cheaper than New York, or Boston, or LA, or any other comparable sized city.

On the tax issue, I find it pretty much a wash. Yes, I pay higher taxes, but I don't pay $500 a month for my share of health insurance. Things do cost a bit more here, there's no question about that. But I can always have things shipped to my Mom's in MI and go get it if need be.

For me it works out great.
 

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After driving up the Pines on Friday:

Canada has adopted Black Friday.
Lane discipline has deteriorated.


press on,
 

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After driving up the Pines on Friday:

Canada has adopted Black Friday.
Lane discipline has deteriorated.


press on,
I thought Toronto was always devoid of driving abilities/etiquette
 

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I thought Toronto was always devoid of driving abilities/etiquette
That was my impression over the 23 years I've been living (and driving long distances) in the area. I have found it easier/less stressful to drive in Los Angeles, Seattle, and Philly (the major US cities I've done the most driving in) even though I was less familiar with the geography.

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On the tax issue, I find it pretty much a wash. Yes, I pay higher taxes, but I don't pay $500 a month for my share of health insurance.
Good point. We in the States, in our anti-tax zeal, sometimes forget what services those higher taxes pay for.
 

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Lived in Alberta my whole life. Born and raised in Fort McMurray back when it was still a place I would consider civilized (dont wish that place on my worst enemy now).

My wife is Swiss and I travel down to the states for work often enough. I have had the long talks over dinner with relatives living in Europe and with American counterparts over beers. At the end of the day Canada has both advantages and disadvantages like anywhere else in the world. I have been fortunate enough to have my wife remind me of the things I (we) take for granted here in the great white north:

Space. LOTS of space. I am not talking a few towns here and there, I am talking areas with hundreds (sometimes thousands) of Miles of NOTHING, no civilization at all. (I like that)

Health Care. Yes everyone has been brain washed by their local gov or state about how us Canadians are so hard done by with our Socialist system, BUT I don't worry about ANY health care needs for myself or my family (wife and 2 kids). Example last week we walked into the local urgent care facility at 9pm with our youngest daughter. 1hr later, we had seen a Dr. some tests were done, we walked out the front door. Not a dime out of our pocket. Sure we pay higher taxes and its not a perfect system. But I love it.

Care free culture. Not unlike the US but from everyone I have had come up and visit they tell me the same thing. "Its so relaxing around here, it seems like everyone and everything is just easy going..."


What I dislike? the lack of a proper 4 season weather cycle. And the NAFTA agreement that makes me pay MORE for goods than anyone in the US. Why does a WRX cost 6 to 8K less in Montana than here in Calgary?


I have had the chance to move abroad a couple times. The reason we decided to turn them both down eventually came down to 1 thing, our Health Care system. while not perfect, its an amazing tribute to Canada that puts it at the top of my list of where to raise my family. Plus we have Tims and good Rally country!

Cheers Eh!
 
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