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It seems that a lot of the complaints against the proposed ideas have to do with how inflexible each proposal is. How about using a "either/or" approach to all this: combine the different ideas and give people choices, allowing them to make a decision on what would work best for their circumtances?

How about:

Either start with a low-power car...

Or get trained (and certified) at a proper week-long rally school, if you really want to start out in a fast car.

And maybe also throw in a small(er) restrictor in any turbo car for the driver's first two or three (or whatever number) of completed events?

Also, if experienced drivers really crash as much as new drivers, require them to pick one of these choices too if the number and severity of their crashes becomes excessive - start counting Jan 1, 2005. Some kind of a formula of number and severity of crashes per stage mile would have to be worked out.

Would this cover most of the bases on the driver/car portions of the safety equation, and still be flexible enough to not drive too many people away from the sport?

Then the other part of the equation - the roads - could be addressed.

Edit: maybe add the experienced co-driver idea in the mix as well.
 

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A case by case basis works great for me.
I would be required to be in a slow car for the rest of my life.
Maybe for the best :p

How do we get a real list of issues and/or concerns from those who are providing insurance so that we can have an honest no-bs discussion as to what an insurer wants to see to lower their blood pressure/worry about covering our events?

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It's not in the insurance Co.s interest to charge based on logic.

>How do we get a real list of issues and/or concerns from
>those who are providing insurance so that we can have an
>honest no-bs discussion as to what an insurer wants to see
>to lower their blood pressure/worry about covering our
>events?
 

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Another flexible approach?

Accident investigations have revealed that relaxed or sleeping people suffer less injuries than tense persons. How about if you have a open class car, no rallyschool training and have a newbie codriver, you can pop some muscle relaxers and be good to go?:+

But really, if you allow too many exceptions and or loopholes, licensing and montoring licensing thereof may be difficult.

I don't agree with the experienced codriver loophole. Most experienced codrivers don't have the driving expertese which is better learned in the safe environment of a driving school. And pairing up experienced codrivers with newbies won't be easy as experienced codrivers will be looking for rides with experienced drivers.
Roadracing requires driving schools, rally should too.
 

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RE: Another flexible approach?

The experienced co-driver wouldn't be a loophole, it was more a "maybe have it as an additional requirement".

The main ideas really were:

New drivers start out with a low-power car OR go to an intensive rally school.

and

Existing competitors have to do the same thing if they are deemed to be dangerous (through specific, publicly known guidelines).

No loopholes or room for interpretation.
 
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