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Ok, I'm writing up some first timer advice and want to take it back... way back. What questions do you (or did you) have as a first timer? I'm talking the very basic stuff here, like:

How do I pay? Where is the entry form? Am I allowed to build my own rally car? Who builds cages?

I'm talking about from zero to getting to the start line at your first rally. Mostly I'm looking for a complete list of questions. Lots of the answers are easy... if you've been in the sport even a year. But obviously before you've been in the sport, you're not in the sport. ;) So, who remembers a topic they were mystified about on their way to becoming a rally racer?

It's a perfect way to spend the New Year... reminiscing about when you were just getting started. :D

Thanks guys. :cool:
Anders
 

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How long do gravel tires last? How many should you bring to an event? How expensive is a cage built by professionals? What happens if you are late to a rally? Do you get a refund?
 

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As a first time co-driver, all the paper work related to getting to the start line was a complete mystery until I was immersed in. If you guys would video a couple of the new competitor meetings so folks could see them it would go a long way to alleviating the anxiety.
How do I use a time card?
If we break and need to withdraw, what paperwork should we expect to have to fill out and where and who do we give it to?
Can we re-enter if a mechanical causes us to miss a stage?
As my first time in a rally, was as a co-driver, I had a fair amount of competitive driving experience.....so the actual driving fast part(or helping my driver do that) was the part I was least nervous about. I was more paranoid about getting procedures right so we would not be penalized or cause issues for our fellow competitors.
 

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Are there any competitors/workers near me that I can learn from? A self subscribed general location (not street specific) rally map would be pretty helpful for finding like minded individuals nearby (idea taken from the Cage Builders Google Map).

What is the difference between a Regional and National event? What and where should I enter?
What are the major phases of a rally (tech, recce, parc ferme, TC1, etc)?
What are we allowed to do before and after tech?
What should I bring with me in the car? (water, snacks, pencils, etc)
What is a driver's meeting and what happens if I miss it?
Why didn't I need to volunteer to learn the ropes before plunging headfirst into the trees? (alt title: Why should I learn from others mistakes?)

I'll come up with more later.

Edit- Great ideas above! Let's make it a touch clearer- I just pulled into my first rally with a car in tow- Where do I go and who do I see? In what order should I do the following:

unload car
park trailer (in service or in a field nearby?)
Meet with registration/competitor contacts
Set up service area (what is allowed/not allowed)
Who is allowed in Service areas? Do they need paperwork?
 

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What is the minimum needed in the cars first aid kit? I would like to print a list and hand it to my mom and say here i need this for my rally car!! same for a spill kit.
 

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I just bought a new STI and really want to rally it. How do I find sponsors to pay for my racing? Are there teams out there that hire drivers cause I am totally the best driver in my group of friends. (Those two questions dominate the majority of emails I have gotten from people interested in getting into rallying.)
 

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If your car is in production, and you make a fix to the car that's illegal in service, can you change your class and can you keep running for seat time but not have the results count?
 

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If your car is in production, and you make a fix to the car that's illegal in service, can you change your class and can you keep running for seat time but not have the results count?


Unless you're delaying the rally, and your car is still safe I dont see any rally organizer preventing you from continuing to run.
 

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How do I best say thank you to event workers/organizers -- cash or gifts??? (sorry, but I just couldn't resist... Great idea Anders!!!)
 

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Unless you're delaying the rally, and your car is still safe I dont see any rally organizer preventing you from continuing to run.
I think what he's asking is if his 'illegal fix' puts him in another class (like if he repairs his stock/production lateral link with a performance/upgraded part that puts him in a different class), does he need to change his class. You would continue in your own class.....if the 'fix' gives you a competitive advantage on stage afterward, i believe its up to your competitors to lodge a complaint/protest. I could be wrong, great question for Anders.



HEY ANDERS....maybe add your write up to my other 'rookie' thread I started a while ago?

http://www.specialstage.com/forums/...-start-quot-Thread-(please-sticky)&highlight=
 

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"Why are there no rally schools to teach me all this stuff so I don't waste a lot of money and trash a perfectly good car to learn it?"
 

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When are the podium girls coming?

Why are the trees so damn magnetic?

Why is rally so expensive (seriously, maybe explain where/what the money goes toward, profit, paying off the mob, permits, etc.).

When I started, I wanted to know more about the technical parts, the time cards, etc. Even though I've driven in three rallies and co-drove once (first and last time, thank you), I still don't understand how the time cards work, leaving on "your minute," etc.

And lastly, why are rally drivers who drive antique BMWs so damn sexy?
 

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I bribe them to come to an event with spare/take-off parts. Sorry we won't be seeing you this winter Dave.
1.) Spare parts ARE great worker "thank yous", lol! (Thanks again, Matt!) And so is floor space for low cost housing of volunteers -- goodly number of teams do this! Greg Healey once "bribed" me with one of his battle scarred Z-car front fenders for my "rally-cave" wall. (He was cleaning out his garage.)

2.) I am still working on getting to Sno-Drift, possibly with Houstin... But if you were referring to Wellsboro Winter Rally, yeah, bummer! Only a one year hiatus, though!
 

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I have been reading the items in this thread and I though that I would share some of the questions I have had during my process. I figured since I am working through the first time experience currently that I might have some good questions for you to use. I have already read over and talked with some of you about the Build vs Buy and source out the roll cage or design it yourself.

Some of the current questions I have or have already had are…

• What the hell are these time cards and what do you mean I can’t be early ( the NCO I sat in on helped a lot with this question). I always try to be early for everything so this was useful information.
• I have put a lot of time and money into this car and/or rollcage. Do I have to wait for an event to get my logbook/roll cage inspection. Can I make arrangements ahead of time with a scrutineer to get this done so if I do need to make changes I can do them before the event.
• What items do I really need to take to enter the rally (rally computer, how many extras parts should I bring, what would be the best type of tow vehicle)
• What should I do before the race to prepare (better diet, checklists, budget during the rally)

There are more questions that have been rolling around in my mind the last couple months but it is getting late and they are slipping my mind. I will edit this post with more as they come to me but these ones stand out the most at the moment.

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Why is rally so expensive (seriously, maybe explain where/what the money goes toward, profit, paying off the mob, permits, etc.).

wait....PROFIT? shit...I'm doing this wrong...
 

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When I'm at the event, how do I know where to go???

That was one of my biggest fears at my first event - not knowing where I needed to be and when.
This is exactly what I was going to say.... I guess I have a better idea now...maybe not! No 2 rallies have provided me the same path...i guess that is part the rally experience.
 
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