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Topi that looks very close to the old Trnas Alp , lets see 140lb Tom and 480LB dirt bike = big crash.......that bike is much to pretty.


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Welp, just like Dakar needs different equipment than typical stage rallies, so the bikes would be different for short stage US rallies.

Those dual sports, even the Dakar "replica" type bikes, don't have a chance. They are pigs with terrible shocks, tons of frame flex, an extra 100# of wt, and pencils for forks. The engines are prehistoric.

Here would be my choice...
http://aeroaces.com/boxstockracer_files/2006sxv450.jpg

V-twin 450. Cut up some rains for hard swept gravel/tarmac stages

Here it is ready for wet or loose stages and fitted with all the street legal junk:

http://www.motorfreaks.nl/fsget.php?id=14135

And here is the stator setup I just got for my KTM to run some proper lights like this...

http://www.husaberg.org/modules/Gallery/albums/PowerCell/DSC00047.sized.jpg

edit...found smaller pic. Sorry.
 

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OK Pass on the dakar replica but pretty sure a 660 SM like this will still clobber a 450 or 550 V Aprilia like this
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...ndexURL=0&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting
Couldn't figure out how to get just the pick in sorry.
The 560 KTM seams to be able to do quite a number on the Aprilia if you watch any of the SM on OLN. I hope it dosn't go down like that though personally would rather see bikes more like DS than SM maybe it's just me.
 

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- Jeeeeez...that's an UGLY bike. Belongs to the "Museum of Modern Art", next to a Picasso

- OK, ok - you'll will the rally but I'd get the chicks with my "Africa", and that's THE point, isn't it?
 

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Wow. You guys are really making me want to spend my bonus on a KTM now instead of rallying this year.

And after I have basically invested all that money into the new chassis.

Dammit I wish I'd have just bought Art's Golf. I coulda had the Golf AND a KTM...

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Nope. The LC4 engine is a dog. 73hp my ass. Not a racing engine in the same vein as their RFS (racing four stroke) line. (450/525/560 etc.)

Few in their right mind would race either an LC4 like the one on Ebay and definitely not the 950 above. Both are too heavy. They are street motards...kinda like the difference between a Subaru Outback, and a rally prepped WRX. Displacement isn't everything.

Yup, the 560 is the bike of choice. I rode one at the Jackson Supermoto track a couple months ago at a KTM demo day. Same engine as my 520, but a bit more grunt. Same frame. Super light weight.

Basically its the production version of what Micky Dymond set the new 750 Unlimited record on at Pikes Peak.
http://www.supermotoracer.com/images/dymond-pikes.jpg

I have a friend with a CRF450 that is now a 490 with some decent cams. That bike is has a bit more top end than the 560. He beats me in a drag race, but he's not sporting as much human weight, either.

I just like the Aprilia's design.

Regardless, the fastest bike will be the one with the best rider.
 

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- If Jeff Ward and other SuperMoto guys show up they'll win easy. Those guys are crazy fast, no matter what they ride, on dirt and tarmac.
PS. An other chic magnet - Harley FlatTrack XR750!
 

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I really want a real KTM Rallye 660 but I want it for a trip I am planning from Helsinki to and through the GObi desert. IT will be good for that with plenty of torque for the dunes and decent cruising. BUt I do not think it would be good enough on a US stage rally event. Firsst of all that bike is good for 20km stages not 20 km stages it owuld be way too heavy without enough kick. THose guys that ran Jonah Street basically made a 660/525 highbrid which was slower in the dunes but equal if not better on the technical stuff. People have mentioned the problems with chassis flex in the 640/660/950 range and they are correct. Perhaps a really cool place for Yamaha to develop the WR450F two track would be here this would give them some real world testing. I think a 525 or a 450 would be the ideal bikes here.
 

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Topi I can't have a chick magnet bike..........You've met the wife , look at her , look at me.........the chances of me pulling this off twice in a life time is slim to none. I don't need some girlies screwing this up. Of course the wife has admitted she liked watching me on the Honda 125 GP bike.....she says cars don't compare.

If Rally Moto happens at a place near me look for me on a XR350 or some really flexi flier vintage bike because I'm not right that way.


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>Few in their right mind would race either an LC4 like the one
>on Ebay and definitely not the 950 above. Both are too heavy.
> They are street motards...kinda like the difference between a
>Subaru Outback, and a rally prepped WRX. Displacement isn't
>everything.


I thought we were going on looks here.
One look at that beauty and you'll push yours back in the trailer.
The only thing better looking is an 06 950 Adventure S motarded.

I'm not being serious, Topi's Africa Twin would be a pig as well. A rat YZ80 would do better, but on looks...........It's all conjecture anyway.

If you were serious about winning. This is what you would bring.

http://smalljoes.com/images_fs/streethawk_l.jpg

http://www.stern.de/_content/51/21/512111/streethawk3_250.jpg
 

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- Yeah, looks ain't everything always...

- Have you seen "Long Way Round"?
- A couple of guys ride round the world with top-of-the-line Dakar style Bimmers.
- After the frame brakes and the Bimmer keeps geting stuck in mud they buy a $ 100 POS Mongolian bike which rides easily rings around the bimmer! It's so frikin' funny. And when Mongolian gear box brakes couple of farmers re-built it with near bare hands. Middle in nowhere. Unbelieveable.
 
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