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Probably the most off's I've seen in a one hour episode (that isn't a crash show). That was a show to record on tape. Including when the RX-7 rolled into the ocean and wrecked onto the reef.

Too many nice cars wrecked up, but hey, it was excellent to watch.

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>Too many nice cars wrecked up, but hey, it was excellent to
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>Cheers,

Yeah. It was really sad to see some of those nice classics become toast. That Porsche was toast - what 3 rolls?
 

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That was sad seeing the R33 Hit the bank and roll. :'( Oh well, I guess it's part of the game. All in all, I thought it was very entertaining. And I agree about the crashing part, there were alot of nice cars destroyed. Wasn't that water logged RX7 part of a husband & wife team, where both had and drove similar cars... At least on of them survived. :)
 

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It is bad to see cool old cars get wrecked, but it is even more sad seeing them sit and not be used for their intended purpose. Old race cars should be raced.
 

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I just wish they had gone into some detail explaining *why* there were so many offs. Was it just Red Mist, or was the weather/road conditions a factor?

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>I just wish they had gone into some detail explaining *why*
>there were so many offs. Was it just Red Mist, or was the
>weather/road conditions a factor?

According to the show, it was a blind rally. This probably contributed.
 
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>According to the show, it was a blind rally. This probably contributed.


That IS a rally. Recce and notes are not rally.
 

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I think as long as there is only the drivers foot on the gas pedal and the drivers hands on the steering wheel, one could reasonably look there for the reasons for 97-98% of single car accidents.

Face it boys, they just f****d up, and crashed their cars, no deep thought required.

You ever want to see some hilarious ranting just say to Dave Clark the words "The car which Jason Futzfud was riding left the road... struck a tree and the sole occupant of the vehicle died."

The standard newspaper wording unimaginably used again and again.

OK contributed but to what degree?

edited to get the wording right to make Dave Clark insane!!

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>>According to the show, it was a blind rally. This probably contributed.
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>That IS a rally. Recce and notes are not rally.
Hey Steve, while I think at the level of 98% of the competitors in North America notes and recce are only important to satisfy their desire for imitate their heros they see on TV (or else how do they drive so pitifully slowly)(and drive down wrong roads for miles!!), Rally until only very very recently, maybe the last 7-9 years has encompassed a huge variety of formats from blind rally to Safari-on-the-clock-the-whole-time to regs-and-route-book-sent-out-a-month-ahead-of-time-and-you-can-and-do-practice-each-stage-10-times.
So while I personally think blind rally shows who knows how to drive best, and seems you do too, I think you might be a bit narrow there.
I mean if the Italians and French want to do like they used to no skin off my nose.
Thankfully someplaces still think driving skills are developed when the driver has to look and make judgements about gassing and braking, rather than listen to some dictation from a tape recorder operator.
And they seem to still produce more world class drivers than the rest of the world put together.
Förbannade Finn Djävlar!



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Okay JVL, point taken that it was probably driver error (or was driver error). If you're driving blind (which the vast majority of us have done), and you don't know what's around the corner, well . . . what do you do?

It looks like a lot of guys weren't getting their braking points right, and overshooting their turns. Maybe the (gasp!) routebook did not show the turns accurately. Who knows.

Still, great fun to watch. Makes me want an old Escort. Like the Isle of Mann coverage Speed has played from the 70s.

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It's my understanding that the recently completed Targa Newfoundland will be broadcast in Canada at the end of January. Probably later on the Speed Channel in the US. Also the guys from Dream Car Garage were at Targa Newfoundland as well. Great event! It was a blind rally with some offs for a whole variety of reasons.

I would recommend Targa Newfoundland to everyone. It is based on the Targa Tasmania event as is Targa New Zealand.


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RE: crazy offs

To get so many offs on tape, they had to have crews waiting at known problem areas.
The bridge near the end was said by the moderator to be marked "double caution"
but it didn't keep the ka from noseing in.
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>If you're driving blind (which the vast
>majority of us have done), and you don't know what's around
>the corner, well . . . what do you do?

Slow down before you get to the turn-in?

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My favorite Targa Tassie crash was several years ago.

Driver of a Ferrari F40 went off on the first corner into a tree.

He said "oh well, I'll just send it back to Italy to be repaired."
 

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>It's my understanding that the recently completed Targa
>Newfoundland will be broadcast in Canada at the end of
>January. Probably later on the Speed Channel in the US.
>Also the guys from Dream Car Garage were at Targa
>Newfoundland as well. Great event! It was a blind rally
>with some offs for a whole variety of reasons.

Targa is probably the BEST motorsports event I have participated in during my 30+ years in racing & rallying.

Near as I can tell, ALL of the offs at TN were due to driver error. There were some mechanical issues, but essentially the drivers were going faster than they needed to be going.

>I would recommend Targa Newfoundland to everyone. It is
>based on the Targa Tasmania event as is Targa New Zealand.

I will second that! If you participate in only ONE motorsports event next year, it should be Targa Newfoundland. It is like running an entire ClubRally season in one week, only the parties are a whole lot better.

>Steve McKelvie
>2003 Inductee into the Royal Order of Screechers

As am I, b'y.

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I too watched the demo derby and all the offs looked like "optimistic entry speeds" to me. I especially like the driver who had the fronts looked solid yet was still attempting to steer.The low point for me was seeing the Volvo 544 stuff it into a bank. There were definitly some neat old/unusaul cars running including a Vauxhal Chevette.

Tom
 
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