[Morgan]

I have to trailer my car from STPR to LA, and I am looking for a potential person to ride shotgun and provide some good conversation, some map reading skills and perhaps to share in the driving (if possible to make better time)

So if a team has too many crew members riding in the truck or anyone might be interested just for the ride please let me know

Thanks!

 

[Flyboy]

I say we make JVL ride with him and take bets as to how far they get before one kills the other! }(


Dennis Martin
[email protected]
920-432-4845

 

[Morgan]

>I say we make JVL ride with him and take bets as to how far
>they get before one kills the other! }(


3 feet! }(






crazy as it sounds, we probably would end up liking each other.......then again maybe not

One thing is for sure, it would not be a boring ride

 

[matt b]

I'm a bit dense, but which way are you going?

Your title says one thing, first post says another, presumably.

 

[KevinG5Hahn]

ride from STPR to LA?" from east to west

trailer my car to LA from STPR to west from east


best as I can tell he'll be going west from STPR ending up in LA....

 

[Morgan]

>
>I'm a bit dense, but which way are you going?
>
>Your title says one thing, first post says another,
>presumably.
>
>


Oops! My bad, I am heading west, final destination LA

Thanks for catching that ;-)

 

[Ole]

Congrats Morgan !

Sounds like you are coming over to the dark side !

El Sluggo I presume ?

 

[Morgan]

>
>Congrats Morgan !
>
>Sounds like you are coming over to the dark side !
>
>El Sluggo I presume ?
>


Hmm, I was told it was the sunny side

Actually, flying down from OT to look for a place


So you wanna take a few extra days off from work after STPR?

 

[Mad Mike]

If you need a mid-continent stop-over you can crash at my place west of Tulsa (purty much smack half-way tween Wellsboro and LA-LA-land)and we'll even treat you to some Okie BBQ. Ask Anders and Amy about their Tulsa BBQ encounter when they blew through here a couple years ago.

North from Wellsboro to west on I-86 (seriously). Pickup I-90 W, avoid Cleveland on I-271 S, then I-71 S to Columbus, I-70 W to St. Louis, I-44 W to Tulsa - then call me. After that it's I-44 to Oklahoma City and then I-40 W to I-15 S and then I-10 W.

Simple.

Halley ...
I wanna be invited to Jake's low water bridge christening ...
http://www.realautosport.com

 

[Morgan]

Thanks for the offer Mike, I'll have to see how it plays out.

At least I know I am welcome in your living room }(

 

[Mad Mike]

>At least I know I am welcome in your living room }(

Absolutely! That's where the hide-a-bed is!

Halley ...
I wanna be invited to Jake's low water bridge christening ...
http://www.realautosport.com

 

[Don Kennedy]

>
>North from Wellsboro to west on I-86 (seriously). >Halley ...
>I wanna be invited to Jake's low water bridge christening ...
>
>http://www.realautosport.com

Okay, you've got me. Exactly where is this I86 }(

 

[Mad Mike]

Southern New York! I think it was only recently uprated to Interstate status so if, like me, most of your road atlases are old it may not show up. I believe it runs from near Bath, NY to near Erie, PA. That route adds some miles to the Tulsa - Wellsboro trip but cuts the exposure to small towns and 2-lane roads infested with motor homes and such - longer but faster, I suppose ...

Halley ...
I wanna be invited to Jake's low water bridge christening ...
http://www.realautosport.com

EDITed to add words I left out posting before my morning coffee.

 

[Adrian Wintle]

>Southern New York! I think it was only recently uprated to
>Interstate status so if, like me, most of your road atlases
>are old it may not show up. I believe it runs from near Bath,
>NY to near Erie, PA. That route adds some miles to the Tulsa
>- Wellsboro trip but cuts the exposure to small towns and
>2-lane roads infested considerably - longer but faster, I
>suppose ...
>
>Halley ...

You wouldn't use US15 to I-80?

BTW. US15 is now interstate quality (soon to be I-99, according to the signs) from north of Mansfield all the way to I-80/Williamsport.

I agree that I-86 would be tempting. All you have to do is make it through the two-lane into southern NY.

Adrian

 

[jandreini]

>>Southern New York! I think it was only recently uprated to
>>Interstate status so if, like me, most of your road atlases
>>are old it may not show up. I believe it runs from near
>Bath,
>>NY to near Erie, PA. That route adds some miles to the
>Tulsa
>>- Wellsboro trip but cuts the exposure to small towns and
>>2-lane roads infested considerably - longer but faster, I
>>suppose ...
>>
>>Halley ...
>
>You wouldn't use US15 to I-80?
>
>BTW. US15 is now interstate quality (soon to be I-99,
>according to the signs) from north of Mansfield all the way to
>I-80/Williamsport.
>
>I agree that I-86 would be tempting. All you have to do is
>make it through the two-lane into southern NY.
>
>Adrian
>

For the last couple of years, I've just worked my way over to Olean (for you old-timers, follow the transit to Gold) and picked up I-86. The two lane roads are little traveled until you get near Olean. It's as quick as cutting through Ontario, but without the border crossing hassles.

 

[Mad Mike]

>You wouldn't use US15 to I-80?
>
>I agree that I-86 would be tempting. All you have to do is
>make it through the two-lane into southern NY.
>
>Adrian

My last tow to STPR was 2003 and it was the second time I used that northern route. It not only cuts out some exposure to 2-lane roads it also avoids the whole driving-through-Youngstown-and-Akron thing. Thanks to I-271 there's no real exposure to a large city until Columbus. There's even a bonus (that may or may not still exist) so far as buying fuel is concerned. The tribal-owned gas stations on I-86 near where one would exit don't charge as many taxes as elsewhere. I found the prices there about the same as Tulsa's which means they are WAY cheaper than just about anywhere else I've found east of the Mississippi.

Here's a tangent for you Morgan ... Next time you expect to be headed east on I-40 in NM make sure you hit Albuquerque at night. After all the relative darkness east of Flagstaff (not counting the brightness blip that is Gallup), clearing the last crest just outside town reveals the Valley-Albuquerque ALL lit up. It is quite a sight.

Halley ...
I wanna be invited to Jake's low water bridge christening ...
http://www.realautosport.com

 

[Adrian Wintle]

>>You wouldn't use US15 to I-80?
>>
>>I agree that I-86 would be tempting. All you have to do is
>>make it through the two-lane into southern NY.

>
>My last tow to STPR was 2003 and it was the second time I used
>that northern route. It not only cuts out some exposure to
>2-lane roads it also avoids the whole
>driving-through-Youngstown-and-Akron thing.

Ok, I understand that. I don't take those E-W interstates much. The only bit of I-86 I drive on is from US-15 (Corning) to I-390 (to Rochester). The only bit of I-80 I've driven is from US-15 to US-15 (i.e. through Williamsport).

Adrian

 

[Mad Mike]

>Ok, I understand that. I don't take those E-W interstates
>much. The only bit of I-86 I drive on is from US-15 (Corning)
>to I-390 (to Rochester). The only bit of I-80 I've driven is
>from US-15 to US-15 (i.e. through Williamsport).
>
>Adrian

You learn a departure time and population center avoidance trick or two as an 18-wheeler OTR driver that pays off when hauling race & rally cars around the country. In 2001 Art Horn and I towed back to Tulsa from Rumford in just 29 hours thanks to some non-typical route choices, avoided exteraneous stops (except for one Maple syrup stand in Vermont) and largely ignored speed limit signs. A 60-plus mph average was more thanks to the range & legs of that Dodge Cummins dually and the fact we were rarely slowed by traffic than anything.

Halley ...
I wanna be invited to Jake's low water bridge christening ...
http://www.realautosport.com

 

[Morgan]

>
>Here's a tangent for you Morgan ... Next time you expect to
>be headed east on I-40 in NM make sure you hit Albuquerque at
>night. After all the relative darkness east of Flagstaff (not
>counting the brightness blip that is Gallup), clearing the
>last crest just outside town reveals the Valley-Albuquerque
>ALL lit up. It is quite a sight.
>
>Halley ...
>I wanna be invited to Jake's low water bridge christening ...
>
>http://www.realautosport.com


Well it is a possibility, the folks live in Prescott, so I was thinking to stop in for a free meal

 

[matt b]

>Here's a tangent for you Morgan ... Next time you expect to
>be headed east on I-40 in NM make sure you hit Albuquerque at
>night. After all the relative darkness east of Flagstaff (not
>counting the brightness blip that is Gallup), clearing the
>last crest just outside town reveals the Valley-Albuquerque
>ALL lit up. It is quite a sight.
>
>Halley ...


Coming down I-80 into Salt Lake City is pretty cool at night as well...as is seeing the sunrise over the Salt Flats, or even being out there in any kind of moon glow.

Looking north in the San Francisco Bay from the foothills in Los Gatos, or up on Skyline Blvd.

what am I doing in Michigan?