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An Organizer Bulletin dated 7/29/03 with the subject "Interim Safety Protocol (ISP)" states "The contents of this bulletin describe an operational "bridge" between the existing RFOs and the all-new Operations Manual for Performance Rally events that is being developed. When ready the new Operations Manual will replace the current RFOs, and this bulletin."

My question is who is developing this manual and is there a target date for completion?

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Simon Levear
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>My question is who is developing this manual and is there a
>target date for completion?

PRB member and former Ojibwe Forest Rally organizer Beryl Ann Burton is heading the committee that is developing the manual. The committee consists of other organizers, divisional stewards, and safety stewards (off the top of my head -- Ray Damitio, Mike Bodnar, Kim DeMotte, Ted Goddard, Dave Weiman, Bill Perry).

The PRB is reviewing the Operations Manual at our 11/19 meeting, and I would guess that it will be published by 1/1/2004.

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- Christian

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exactly!
 
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>Sweet. This is more important than a lot of hindsight
>jabbering about Kurt.


Those who fail to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.

Regarding the operations manual you have to ask yourself
one thing.
"This is a .44 magnum. The most......."
No, sorry. Wrong movie.

"This operations manual has the power influence
when, where, how, and if I can rally. Have I been
presented a rough draft and asked for my input?
Will I be presented with a rough draft and asked
for my input?"

If you can answer "yes", then all is well.

If you cannot answer "yes", then you have learned nothing
from the past and you are doomed.
 

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>Regarding the operations manual you have to ask yourself
>one thing.
>"This is a .44 magnum. The most......."
>No, sorry. Wrong movie.
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>"This operations manual has the power influence
>when, where, how, and if I can rally. Have I been
>presented a rough draft and asked for my input?
>Will I be presented with a rough draft and asked
>for my input?"
>
>If you can answer "yes", then all is well.

But shouldn't you also ask yourself "Have I sought out a rough draft? Have I offered to work with the volunteers that have stepped forward to do this? That was the point of my original post. I want to be a part of making this happen.

I would agree that "If you can answer "yes", then all is well." IMO

Simon
 

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>Regarding the operations manual you have to ask yourself
>one thing.
>"This is a .44 magnum. The most......."
>No, sorry. Wrong movie.
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>"This operations manual has the power influence
>when, where, how, and if I can rally. Have I been
>presented a rough draft and asked for my input?
>Will I be presented with a rough draft and asked
>for my input?"
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So the question is, punk, are ya feeling lucky???

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John Vanlandingham
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>So the question is, punk, are ya feeling lucky???

After the past 5 years... HELL NO, I'm not feeling lucky!
That was the point of my question.

JV, you are one sinful bastard. ;-)

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>"This operations manual has the power influence
>when, where, how, and if I can rally. Have I been
>presented a rough draft and asked for my input?
>Will I be presented with a rough draft and asked
>for my input?"
>
>If you can answer "yes", then all is well.
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>If you cannot answer "yes", then you have learned nothing
>from the past and you are doomed.

I see. So when you go to McDonalds and get your EggMcMuffin...oh wait...you don't get EggMcMuffins, do you? Because you most likely weren't faxed a proposed recipe/blueprint for the EggMcMuffin before it went on the market. Therefore you are not happy with the fact they put cheese on the damn thing and you WILL NOT EAT THAT EGGMCMUFFIN....except you really LIKE the rest of it...the buttery muffin, the grease laden egg...so what to do? I know! How about if you stand in the middle of McDonalds and scream about how RAY KROC IS THE DEVIL and call into question every McDonalds employee from the CEO to the guy in drive-thru. In fact, you'll write letters to the editor of papers describing this terrible injustice, that they didn't consult you, the customer, before offering this product.

So you hate the product. Maybe you can go across town to NAS...ahem, Burger King. Or maybe go to that wonderful Canadian chain Harvey's, if you're close to the border. (They do things a little different in Canadian ralli...err restaurants... Gravy on fries???) :) If you go away and get breakfast somewhere else, you can either enjoy or hate it there. If enough people agree with you and don't like cheese or find the reconstituted onions disgusting, then McDonalds will go out of business. Just understand that some people like the cheese and some people will deal with the onions if it means they get the best fries.
 

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>But shouldn't you also ask yourself "Have I sought out a
>rough draft? Have I offered to work with the volunteers
>that have stepped forward to do this? That was the point of
>my original post. I want to be a part of making this
>happen.
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>I would agree that "If you can answer "yes", then all is
>well." IMO
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>Simon

Or another good question is:

"Have the members of the operations manual committee presented their work to any of the individuals who's personal work was lifted for inclusion to confirm that the spirit and technical aspects of said work have not been horribly mangled as is the normal occasion whenever a 'committee' tries to write a coherent document?"

Just curious

Brad
 

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What's the deal Lurch? You take all your rally winnings and buy stock in fast food restaurants and so now you're trying to build their profits?

Kent Gardam
 
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