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    RX7 for gravel rallying and 944 for Tarmac rallies. Have rallied in both. Both will cost similar amounts, well here in Australia they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Average View Post
    Buy a used built car.
    I just bought an Ex- National Championship Winning Car with a ton of spares for half of what you're spending to build a car from scratch.
    Or Piss Away a Shit Load of Cash building your own car.
    Keep searching .. find the "RX7 guys" in rally ... you'll probably find a log booked rally rx7 for sale somewhere in the US ...
    ... or, if you aren't set on those cars, but are a "RWD" guy, it looks like there are some things still for sale in the classifieds ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by raybak View Post
    RX7 for gravel rallying and 944 for Tarmac rallies. Have rallied in both. Both will cost similar amounts, well here in Australia they do.

    Ray

    well first he'd need some tarmac rallies, Then he could think about a 944..

    He'll have a long looking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Formosa kid View Post
    So my dads friend have two cars for sale and I want to buy one of them to start rally racing. Both cars needs to be build. I like both and actually like the 944 a lot but 944 is more expensive. What do you guys think? which one is a better way to go ? cheaper to build, race and overall cost to all and etc....

    pics are from google
    RX7?



    944?
    Notice both are on tarmac?

    What you can get away with on narrow twisty tarmac in a car with sticky tires and adjustable camber, castor and toe on both ends, in a short wheelbase is one thing...

    And what a non-fully adjustable short wheelbase car on loose gravel on wide and comparatively fast roads is another..

    But build what you want..

    What could possibly go wrong?

    Don't worry at all about cost vs results potential or even cost vs smile potential..

    The important thing is you had a idea to build one or the other of now rather rare cars, that's all that's important.
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    Because no RX7 ever won a gravel rally stage or gravel rally.... http://www.prorallypix.com/RX-7/rx11.html

    Craigslist always has Gen 1 or 2 RX7s for sale.

    I just sold a logbooked 7 that was complete , they are out there.

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    Um, Gene, how many of those were 2wd/Real Wheel Drive?

    Roddy's was pretty much unobtanium.

    Quote Originally Posted by heymagic View Post
    Because no RX7 ever won a gravel rally stage or gravel rally.... http://www.prorallypix.com/RX-7/rx11.html.
    press on,
    just a poor, dumb, Michigan(now Wisconsin) navie
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy View Post
    Um, Gene, how many of those were 2wd/Real Wheel Drive?

    Roddy's was pretty much unobtanium.

    0.

    press on,
    His last version was all crazy...and yeah unobtainium..
    But he did just fine in his ordinary RX7s too.
    They were good, saw him go and it was beautiful to watch (that's just when I was getting into the sport).

    And a guy could do a car just like what he did in those straight RWD ones and do it today easier than then
    Recipe: 1 RX7 shell. Add: 1 12A or 13B.
    Fold in MkII Escort front crossmember, steering rack, front hubs, AP brakes, struts (inverted Bilstein 40s or today 50s), gearbox (Type 9 Ford with say Tranex or 3J gear kit--nice choice available now compared to then:
    2.25, 1.53, 1.16, 1.0, 0.84
    2.25, 1.53, 1.16, 1.0, 0.87
    2.25, 1.53, 1.16, 1.0, 0.79
    2.25, 1.53, 1.16, 1.0, 0.82
    2.48, 1.69, 1.28, 1.0, 0.92
    2.48, 1.69, 1.27, 1.0, 0.96
    2.48, 1.69, 1.28, 1.0, 0.87
    2.48, 1.69, 1.27, 1.0, 0.90
    2.16, 1.53, 1.16, 1.0, 0.84
    2.16, 1.53, 1.16, 1.0, 0.87
    2.16, 1.53, 1.16, 1.0, 0.79
    2.16, 1.53, 1.16, 1.0, 0.82
    2.39, 1.69, 1.28, 1.0, 0.92
    2.39, 1.69, 1.28, 1.0, 0.96
    2.39, 1.69, 1.28, 1.0, 0.87
    2.39, 1.69, 1.28, 1.0, 0.90
    2.38, 1.62, 1.23, 1.0, 0.89
    2.38, 1.62, 1.23, 1.0, 0.92
    2.38, 1.62, 1.23, 1.0, 0.84
    2.38, 1.62, 1.23, 1.0, 0.87
    2.29, 1.62, 1.23, 1.0, 0.89
    2.29, 1.62, 1.23, 1.0, 0.92
    2.29, 1.62, 1.23, 1.0, 0.84
    2.29, 1.62, 1.23, 1.0, 0.87

    Whew. Lotta choice...

    Add MkII Escort propshaft, rear turrets, Atlas axle and AP brakes and Bilstein coilovers, and Escort 4 link kit
    Next, blend in a cage
    And you're done.

    Mazda shell and motor, the rest Escort MkII Group 4 parts.

    Do that and you have a car capable of top3 overall placing

    If you look at 2015 Rally Otago in the New Zealand Rally Championship well see that is true..
    And that is a entry list much more competitive than ours...and there was a RX7 doing fine against all kinds of well financed and well built turbo 4x4 machines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy View Post
    Um, Gene, how many of those were 2wd/Real Wheel Drive?

    Roddy's was pretty much unobtanium.press on,
    Um , Jimmy, all but Rod's were RWD including mine. We had Steve Roberts, John Christensen(sp), Tim Patterson, TJAROs, mine and probably a couple others I'm forgetting. I think Kelsey had one also?? Lots of smiles were had up here and elsewhere. Seems like Andrew Havas and Mike Hurst did some damage back east in RX-7s. I'll bet following some advice from the amazing JVL would make one heck of a rally car these days.
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    Yep, but your picture seemed to be mostly Roddy's FrankenMazda.

    One of my fondest memories of Grant and Woolfie was them passing Guy Light and me (in the 400 cid Jeep) at POR and then me looking in the side window, and me saying to Guy, "must be a corner coming" (this was before notes).

    We regularly got beaten by Real Wheel Drive wop wop cars.

    btw - saw Dave Poston a couple of weeks ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by heymagic View Post
    Um , Jimmy, all but Rod's were RWD including mine. We had Steve Roberts, John Christensen(sp), Tim Patterson, TJAROs, mine and probably a couple others I'm forgetting. I think Kelsey had one also?? Lots of smiles were had up here and elsewhere. Seems like Andrew Havas and Mike Hurst did some damage back east in RX-7s. I'll bet following some advice from the amazing JVL would make one heck of a rally car these days.
    press on,
    just a poor, dumb, Michigan(now Wisconsin) navie
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    Turn to page 2..1986-1992 ..linky at the bottom of Jim Culps page. http://www.prorallypix.com/RX-7/rx11b.html

    I'm suprised a world class co-driver (even an antique) wouldn't check all the pages..

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