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    Quote Originally Posted by copmgnt View Post
    Haha I dont know you, but I enjoy your essays! Thanks for taking the time to always respond to my questions and concerns. As far as the mechanic dilemma, I obviously dont know as much as you or some others on here, but I worked three summers straight as a helper at every racing shop i could find. Ive pretty much done everything except assemble a short block. I am sure i could work on an escort with minimal learning curve as well as my mechanic. I want a vw because he has TONS and TONS of parts, the guy literally has so many jetta/golf fenders, hoods, complete cars its unbelievable. I also purouse the junkyards from time to time and all see is jettas and golfs (im always in the european section for obvious reasons) but the dam things are a dime a dozen!
    Yeah tons of parts...nice shiny doors and windsheilds an.wait
    Those are NOT the decisive parts...

    A RALLY car is a RALLY car because of a few select things that differentiate it from a say limp-wristed girly man (road race) car, which has a few parts which differentiate it from a street car or a autobahn burner or a Paris Dakar car or a LA show car...

    Suspension travel
    Brake balance
    underbody armour
    and the big one: FINAL DRIVE ratio...

    Other cars may--and are waaaaay waaaaaaaaaaaaay funner-er when they do---have quick steering, or gnarly motors, or a cage or a lotta stickers, or bitchin wheels
    And they may go FAST or maybe get GRAEAT Em Pea Gee

    A rally car is optimised for going QUICKLY from about 25mph to about 90mph (although some cars on the superhighway like North American roads may go a little faster...but that isn't the point--we don't give out the prestigious Factory Driver contracts and the awe inspiring trophies for max MPH reached---its all about shortest time and that's all about quickness.

    Within that 25-90 range, 75% is 40 to 75mph---

    So how do you make a normal aspirated car QUICK? Compression camshaft and what the motor don't do, you do with FINAL DRIVE--and you put it down with a LSD..
    You ain't going to find a rally final drive and a rally LSD in some parts box on a shelf--or in any wrecking yard I know of...

    And without those its all just fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap

    spolilchht---eeeeww, get a paper towel dude! That's gross!

    That Ex-squirt has that stuff in it--GET IT, theres 100 Ex-squirts to every Golf left these days (same reason i say 240 Volvo vs the Xratty: 100 to one cars and they are both just as good for us hose-wads)
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    To the OP, if you carefully read the P-stock rules, you will find that a car that is prepared to the limit of those rules is going to be better prepared than your **average** Group 2 or CRS-2 car. In other words, it's very good for the perception that someone running in P-Stock and is running faster than a G2 car is a vastly superior driver, but it's fairly likely that the guy with the G2 car just chose to check a box on the entry form that put him in with potentially better competition. Personally, I think that's what rally is all about, and that we have too many classes as it is, especially in the Southwest, where even Prescott, the premier event in region, only had 20 entries this year.

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    sort of off topic but hey.

    so we want a quick car from 40-75 / 25-90 . I can see why final drive / gearing is very important. and an LSD cause spinning 1 tire doesn't work as good as having them hook up .

    But John what are your thoughts on bushings? Do the stock ones have to get really bad before there's any reason / improvement?

    what about specially the rear pumpkin bushings? does that thing moving around take away from car quickness ? in a rally car would it be best to go poly or maybe just hard core metal?
    Welcome to Rally Addicts anonymous! Hi I'm Alex Rademacher, and i have a Rally problem..... 23 rallies and counting....

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    Thanks for the props JV!!

    As far as being a mechanic... I am not... At least not my normal job...but this is and has been the easiest car I have ever worked on and finding parts is fun because I don't have to look for just Scorts...it could be a protege or kia or oh my a newer 03 Mazda for some bits too!!
    If you have any questions Copmgmt lemme know!!
    Cheers
    Quote Originally Posted by copmgnt View Post
    Haha I dont know you, but I enjoy your essays! Thanks for taking the time to always respond to my questions and concerns. As far as the mechanic dilemma, I obviously dont know as much as you or some others on here, but I worked three summers straight as a helper at every racing shop i could find. Ive pretty much done everything except assemble a short block. I am sure i could work on an escort with minimal learning curve as well as my mechanic. I want a vw because he has TONS and TONS of parts, the guy literally has so many jetta/golf fenders, hoods, complete cars its unbelievable. I also purouse the junkyards from time to time and all see is jettas and golfs (im always in the european section for obvious reasons) but the dam things are a dime a dozen!

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