In PA we have tarmac hillclimbs. It's not stage rally but you get a couple shots at it over the weekend.
this NY -NJ area /Bear Mountain park and Seven lakes park is very very close to many rally guys. i am sure if some one do this + put pictures etc about the road is a def. will get into many many rally guys head
The Chasing the Dragon Hillclimb in NC is all tarmac.
As is the Crow Mountain Hillclimb held in AL.
those are very famous roads , dont they? SO if they are, they would close them down for rally?
I always want to see the dragon actually
I think the problem is twofold, and the two factors form a vicious circle. First, you need a suitable road. It's not surprising that most of these roads are in the East for a variety of technical and sociopolitical reasons. So, you have a limited number of roads, confined to a part of the country where only about 1/3 of the competitors are. Only a subset of those competitors are interested in going, because, as has been pointed out, they could just go to a hillclimb event or a track day for a "similar" experience, so if they are going to a rally, they're probably going to go to a gravel event. Personally, I think it would be fun, and I hope to make it to Rally TN one of these years, but the "bang for the buck" factor is a little low.
But that particular argument is a straw-man anyway... neither of the current tarmac events have cliffs on the other side of rock walls, so you would have to list a different reason for not attending them.
Tarmac rallies suffer from the same issue that snow rallies have: people imagine that they have to get new tires and it's so expensive and complicated. Well, we're all getting new tires to race anyway, so that's moot over the course of a couple seasons. The suspension issues are another psychological stumbling block, even if the reality is that you just lower the car an inch or two and you're fine. Sure, you could x,y,z and it will make the car faster. But it's still rally, meaning that, in the US, it's the driver that's the limit, not the equipment.
Rob, give me a call this week, 919.697.5282 is my cell, and we can talk about it. NASA Rally Sport is actively working on resources for new organizers, like the link Eric posted that's only about a week old. I also recently converted all the Appendix A stuff to actual usable PDFs posted online, which are more handy resources for organizers. Yesterday's project was a sample "introduction letter" of the type used to give to Chambers of Commerce or County Council members when you first approach them. So NRS is very much 'in the trenches' when it comes to this.
NASA Rally Sport Director
Your question is probably answered in Rally University.
i'll do Anders i'll do
I just have to prep my car until Thursday for painting, so i will work from the morning to late night. After the RKT takes over . We have short couple weeks left until MT Washington. But i know rally takes time to organize /as much as i know / so i'll call you asap in this week.
ps : the roads i was thinking is a very close radius, and there is many great option for HQ, example the bear mountan park :
they always have car shows etc and would be a middle of the rally or heart of it
also has restaurants bathrooms etc. and HUGE parking lot!
restaurant - bathroom building:
my imaginary rally HQ
wish us luck, and you will have a blast rally soon ,if you wish you can call it mini monte carlo !
Last edited by Robevo; 05-30-2011 at 07:37 PM.
by the way , its worth to mention it, this is very close to new york city - nj etc. and there is MANY first gen EU. guys living, who knows and care about rally. Takes them aprox. 45 minutes from the city to get there... Its not like the IRNY where you have to actually somehow find a stage or need help to find it, and no one knows rally. Which is one big factor for not showing up there, unknown location for them and the distance of the rally + distance between stages.
This area is very well known and favorite weekend destination.versus /example Walton NY.
I am not saying that is not a good place for rally, but location wise Bear Mountain is the jackpot if you can organize a rally there, spectator wise too.
I am pretty excited about it ,if Andres can cook something up with the local governments.
"Now, Pinky, if by any chance you are captured during this mission, remember you are Gunther Heindriksen from Appenzell. You moved to Grindelwald to drive the cog train to Murren. Can you repeat that?"