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    Quote Originally Posted by ajax View Post
    Mazda Escort?

    Bill, are you going to try to make it to LSPR for MaxAttack?
    There was a guy last year at Rally Tennessee with a "Mazda Escort GT." Not exactly sure who he was trying to fool.

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    This is probably nothing new for the Escort/Protege/323 guys but in the early 90s these 3 cars all shared the Mazda BG platform. Chassis wise, everything is interchangeable. In the case of the 91-96 Escort GT, the engine (Mazda BP) and transmission (Mazda G) are also designed by Mazda. However, Ford will all but disavow knowledge that the car was even designed by a foreign car company. The VIN is a US VIN but I wouldn't be surprised if everything was made in Japan and final assembly was done in the US.

    Given the benefit of the doubt, Ford probably designed the body, new sets of wheels for each of the trim levels, the interior, but that's about where it stops. So if you take it at face value Shaun, no, he's not fooling anyone. But when you take the body away, you're left with a Mazda Protege and it's kind of frustrating when neither company will give you much support.
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    I doubt Buffum could claim Mitsubishi contingency money for running his Hyundai Tiburons, either.
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    yeah i knew the origin of the car's design. But when you put "Mazda" on the entry list instead of "Ford," it tells me one of two things: Either the person is actually unaware that though the car is on a Mazda platform, it's actually a Ford.....or the other thing it tells me is that he's ashamed of it, and wants the car to look like something it's not.

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    Or just being funny?

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    Kinda hits home... a friend wanted a Quaife for his ZX2. Mazda G-box. ALL Mazda parts from Quaife had to be bought through Mazda Comp, not Quaife USA. To buy anything from Mazda Comp, you had to show that you were actively racing a Mazda...

    Kinda sad, the ZX2 was a far nicer car than the purely Mazda based chassis... much more torquey engine, easier to work on, and the rear suspension didn't rust to inadjustability after six months.

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    ? Mazda Escort GT ? ?

    ...sounds fast!

    i bet if you took a newer Ford Explorer Sport with the short frame mixed it with a 95 Mazda B2300 cab it would be one fast 2WD truck...

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    Sorry to start a thread and then vanish. I just got back from racing my silly LeMons Miata in Colorado and then returned to a million fires at work. Didn't have time to even find the interwebs...

    I'll take a look at the rallycross thing and try to answer the questions on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P Remner View Post
    Kinda hits home... a friend wanted a Quaife for his ZX2. Mazda G-box. ALL Mazda parts from Quaife had to be bought through Mazda Comp, not Quaife USA. To buy anything from Mazda Comp, you had to show that you were actively racing a Mazda...

    Kinda sad, the ZX2 was a far nicer car than the purely Mazda based chassis... much more torquey engine, easier to work on, and the rear suspension didn't rust to inadjustability after six months.
    Believe me, we'd rather be able to sell Quaifes to anybody. The restriction to only sell to registered and proven Mazda racers is a necessary corporate policy to prevent a dealer rebellion. Without this restriction, we're basically undercutting the dealer's parts prices, which makes Cal Worthington and his dog spot both very unhappy. Yea, I know, Cal Worthington doesn't sell Quaifes, but corporate policies are seldom written carefully enough to forsee things like that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Burmeister View Post
    I like the new additive payout scheme. Just an observation, it discourages one from entering national events. For whatever that's worth. Running 2 regionals instead of 1 national allows one to double their money. I think it's probably appropriate for the state of 2wd in rallying right now, though, with MaxAttack! being the most meaningful 2wd championship and since it allows regional entries as well.

    Thanks again, Dave. Neat way to do it.
    Eric,

    The intention is not to discourage national entries, but simply not to require them. I think the rules got edited down to the point where some details aren't explained clearly enough, but my intention is for national and regional entries to be scored together. For the purposes of our payouts, a national entry is actually running two regional rallies. You can still win the full amount, and you can still win partial payouts. This also means you can run the regional, think you won the big money, and get beat out of the money by someone in the national who you didn't realize you were racing against. That potentially sucks, but we had to come up with SOME way to play fair to everybody, regardless of their entry fee budget.

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