Umm guys - I hate to point this out to you, but you are a bit late on this one.
Check the Rules Bulletins dating back as far as Dec. 2005 (RB #22).
Then posted again in Sept '06 (RB 18) and Nov. '06 (RB 20).
While I am not in total agreement w/ the need for head and neck restraints at this time, it's too late in the game to really complain.
Do as I have and save your dimes.
Are you referring to the requirement for Head and Neck Restraints next year?
I think I remember a bulletin last year that H&N devices would be required in 2008. It's a significant expense, to be sure. Still, it shouldn't be a surprise.
I got my HANS last year. So our team still needs to buy one more. I've suggested to Dan and Gabe (my two navi's) that they split the cost and share one, at least for now. Maybe other teams could consider something similar.
Also, SafeDrives was offering a rental program. May be another affordable option.
I would also consider lending my HANS to a local team if I'm not using it (ie. Oregon Trail 2008, since I help organize that one). Perhaps others would be willing to do the same.
It is expensive, to be sure. And I hope it doesn't have too much of a negative effect on entries.
If you're that worried about it, I wish you would have put up a post to commiserate with your fellow competitors.
The out-of-region guys have destroyed the intent with their banter about sponsor decals.
Doug, yes, that is the portion which I highlighted and to which I was referring. I didn't race last year so didn't read the rulebook or bulletins. *shrug*
That said, I missed the focus of your concern (like many other respondents) since the 1/08 H&N requirement has been advertised for many, many months now. Somehow I've lived through one 630-degree roll over, at least one 90-degree roll, two flips, one driver's door-centric marriage of tree and car, one 50-mph carom off a boulder and that frozen bank bash Kala and I endured at SNO*DRIFT 05 without any lasting damage. So I too am less than happy about shelling out the bucks for something I'm not convinced will be money well spent for my personal good, but NONE of that precludes the fact that an H&N will be required if you want to run RA events next year. Period.
Now, there was some talk of rental units being available ... Anything new appear on that front? Anyone?
And just to keep the decal piece of the thread alive and kicking, both EMily and I had no problem with GOT BALLS and even scored an oversize sticker that, apparently, became a tree-magnet when the truck was placed in the hands of a Spec Racer driver ...
Halley (WB5SQC) ...
chances are we won't be competing at at least one two-day local rally due to the H&N restraint costs...it's hard to spend money on things that don't make the car faster, espeically when 1500-2000 could build us one hell of a bottom end....hell thats nearly a new car for us
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I also said...
"But most likely because it's a clearer rule?"
I was giving Anders some simple financial reasons as that was his angle...and as far as xgames the rules and the sport of rally seem to apply as needed, and that's fine by me and anyone else that gets it.
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The new rule is a little more clear, but it is also different from what we have done in the past, so there is a potential for problems.
As a purely hypothetical example, if Fram came back as a series sponsor, I guess the K&N sponsored competitors would have to just put up with it. That could be a reason for K&N to step up their involvement or a reason for them to look at sponsoring guys in another series where they didn't have to have Fram appear on their cars.
Yeah, sure, I see your point. Just substitute the series sponsorship (with hopefully more TV coverage on ESPN) for XGames.I was giving Anders some simple financial reasons as that was his angle...and as far as xgames the rules and the sport of rally seem to apply as needed, and that's fine by me and anyone else that gets it.
back when everyone was freaking out about the h&n subject the first time around, there was also talk of RA wanting to make it required for 2008 to have closed face helmets. did this ever go through? there are some pretty nice open face peltors for sale in the classifieds section....