Production class question
Am I reading the RA rules right? It looks like they crossed out the multipliers for 3+ valves/cyl. Would that mean you could race an old 1.8L AWD NA Impreza in the Production class?
1800 x 1.3 = 2340
For some reason, I thought you had to run 2WD for Production class, but I can't find any rule to that effect. Thanks!
Production is 2wd only. I haven't looked where it says that but it does.
If you'll look up the bulletin on Rally-America.com I think you'll find the reasoning behind the decision(s). It wouldn't surprise me that a 2-liter, normally aspirated AWD Subaru would now be legal in Prod. Some mention was made years ago about old 1.8 Justys being legal for the class but questions about a small engine turning all that drive line gear apparently left no one interested in pursuing that particular "AWD advantage."
Originally Posted by rallymefree
Neither AWD nor turbos are specifically outlawed in RA's Prod classes but displacement multiplied by stock performance enhancers will move some cars into the PGT class.
Methinks you're thinking Group 2 ...
Originally Posted by RichardM
And Group 5 for that matter.
AWD in rallycross
Rallycross rules are slightly different and there's a separate Stock class for FWD and AWD. One of the arguments I have with the rules is that there is no displacement multiplier for engine size. In stock AWD drive all engine displacements are lumped together: you could be running an AWD Justy, N/A Impreza or WRX and still be legal if you meet all the other criteria.
Justies are 1.2l, not 1.8l. YUCK
Nobody was stopping anyone from running the older 1.8l and smaller 2-valve 4wd Subarus in Production. Did any masochist ever actually attempt this?
As for rallycross, that's a different beast altogether... vehicle weight seems to matter more than vehicle power or number of wheels driven.
(Get ready, I'm going to join Bernie in the kettle thing...)
Originally Posted by Mad Mike
or a New Beetle!
and check out times on ss2 (almost 30 minutes, its a long one) then look at car #13 (Justy) and see who he's running with and against that event!
This is another demonstration of why people shouldn't get so hung up on equipment. Alcaraz made the difference, not the car.
Jamie Thomas ran a 1.8 FWD Impreza in Production before switching to PGT. (...have no idea about the masochist label--more like patience and a realistic plan, I'd say.)
Originally Posted by P Remner
In 2007, she was 10th O/A at Oregon and 13th O/A at Olympus. The somewhat-sluggish Subaru was arguably a good stepping stone.
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