Nemadji Trail Rally II

[Rallygrl]

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Worker Registration for Nemadji Trail Rally on Saturday June 19th, is now open!
Please register online at (www.rallymasterpro.com/workers).
Registration and post rally party will be in the Duquette Community Center

What: Nemadji Trail II Rally
Where: Duquette, MN
When: June 19, 2010
Worker Registration Opens at 9:00am
-this year it is first come, first serve for worker assignments

Bannering Meeting: 8:30am
Worker Meeting: 11:30am
Head to the Woods: Aprox.12:20pm
Be back to Duquette: about 7:30pm
Awards and meal to follow

We will work hard to stick to the schedule and get everyone back to Duquette as early as possible.
Register online at: www.rallymasterpro.com/workers

Duquette is 22 miles east of I-35 about 1 1/2 hours north of the twin cities metro area. We will once again have our headquarters at the Duquette General Store. The General Store offers many convenience items (bottled water, sports drinks, snacks, etc.) as well as made-to-order deli sandwiches. Feel free to contact us with any questions at drury5986@comcast.net or amandacingle@gmail.com

Parking Note: Please do not park in front of the bar. Please park along the east side of the community center or near the store.

Chief of Controls
Amanda Ingle (Rallygrl)
Banner Chief/Stage Cpt.
Dan Drury (Boomer)

More info to come as it becomes available.

[chavez917]

Looks like we won't be able to run due to a schedule conflict with work. Gotta pay the bills and all. But I'll be available to navigate. If I don't get a ride I can come out and work stages.

Colin Vickman

[dhmcginn]

Amanda,
I know what I put down when I registered, but I am available for just about any job. Have radio, will travel.

(maybe not stage captain)
Denny

[CTGordon]

Currently available as navi. If no takers I will be volunteering to work.

[johnhuebbe]

Is the early payment deadline this Friday? (I assume so)

[C_Eixen]

Is the early payment deadline this Friday? (I assume so)

That's what it showed on the Registration page.

[carl]

crap, gotta remember to register. just getting back from stpr and I think the car is usable lol

[chavez917]

Seat found. I will be gettin cheesy.

Colin Vickman

[mayhem83]

Yes, the early registration deadline is Friday.

Mary Utecht

[Greg Donovan]

i am trying to figure out some racing plans for next year with a friend and i am wondering if the nemadji trail is an event that can be run with fairly stock suspension?

[carl]

i am trying to figure out some racing plans for next year with a friend and i am wondering if the nemadji trail is an event that can be run with fairly stock suspension?

stock suspension would work just fine on the main road. it's flat and smooth. the spur road is a bit bumpier but stock stuff would still handle it ok

[markhuebbe]

I have a freaking 1970 Beetle with stock leaf springs in the front and stock torsion bar in the back with Bilstein shocks. If I can handle it so can you!

[Greg Donovan]

good to hear guys. i am looking to get some stuff going with a friend for next year and the plans will be easier to "sell" to the boss if the car can be used for more than just one thing.

[P.Johansen]

i am trying to figure out some racing plans for next year with a friend and i am wondering if the nemadji trail is an event that can be run with fairly stock suspension?

We ran NT1 this year on OEM suspension (which are KYB GR2's). After the race, Derek said, "that was the smoothest gravel road I've ever driven."

You'll be fine.

[Rallygrl]

I am so excited to see who all shows up! :D

[johnhuebbe]

Come on people. Up to 9 entries, lets get 5 or 6 more!

[ScandiaWRX]

Come on people. Up to 9 entries, lets get 5 or 6 more!

I will message Kimmes to find out what his excuse is. Someone go shake RallyHippy out of his tree. Too bad Bushore and Miles Bothee won't make the drive. Didn' Matt Johnston just post he's got a new engine in his. car? Jim Cox, I know you're laying on the wrenches this weekend, get her back together and come play with us.

Rally Master (Mistress?) Nemadji 2

[Greg Donovan]

please keep these rallies going! i am very close to getting my poop in a group to be able to run the NT rallies next year. i have a very creative idea to make it very low cost just need to find a couple people crazy enough to go along with it.

[J Cox]

Jim Cox, I know you're laying on the wrenches this weekend, get her back together and come play with us.

Rally Master (Mistress?) Nemadji 2

"Trans on the ground, trans on the ground, lookin like a fool with your trans on the ground."

I'll probably throw in an entry tomorrow unless I get unexpected bad news. I know Dan really wants to run, so I'll be trying hard to be ready.

J Cox
#558

[Greg Donovan]

"Trans on the ground, trans on the ground, lookin like a fool with your trans on the ground."

I'll probably throw in an entry tomorrow unless I get unexpected bad news. I know Dan really wants to run, so I'll be trying hard to be ready.

J Cox
#558

well played jim, well played.

something wrong wor are you going back to 4WD?

[johnhuebbe]

"Trans on the ground, trans on the ground, lookin like a fool with your trans on the ground."

I'll probably throw in an entry tomorrow unless I get unexpected bad news. I know Dan really wants to run, so I'll be trying hard to be ready.

J Cox
#558

You got to enter, just because your engine sounds so cool ripping through the forest.

[P.Johansen]

Lookie who just registered...

[boomer]

So excited! This will be my first codrive ever. What a way to start, Jims S10 is amazingly cool. I feel like a little kid waiting for Christmas.

[carl]

where are the himes and the vtak machine?

[Scuba Steve]

So excited! This will be my first codrive ever. What a way to start, Jims S10 is amazingly cool. I feel like a little kid waiting for Christmas.


Yay!!! ...and a kid that will get so excited he pukes? ;):p

[boomer]

I hope not. But if I do I'll save the bag and put it under your seat at service.

[freightdog]

Can't do Nemadji 2. Car is a bit squished after a roll at STPR (although as it sits now, it would probably pass tech LOL)

I am doubtful for Ojibwe also but will provide an update closer to the event date

I will compete at LSPR. Bank on it.

[Rallygrl]

Hey everyone, we are all excited to see you at Nemadji Trail II. If you are planning on working the event, please register online at http://www.rallymasterpro.com/workers

Let us know if you have any questions, we would appreciate more workers! :D

[Rallygrl]

Supps are now posted on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=106356240864&topic=15056) for competitors.

[johnhuebbe]

So, it looks like 3 stages per rally. I noticed that the schedule is the same as the first rally. Will there be less time at each turn-around?

[mdhimes]

where are the himes and the vtak machine?

vtak?? Like ventricular tachycardia?!

Silas and I are planning on running N3. Depending on a couple factors I'll probably be at N2 working or helping crew.


Give me one of epi carl!!!!

[C_Eixen]

I finally get to experience the spur road!

Now to find a hotel that has non-smoking rooms available...

[carl]

I finally get to experience the spur road!

Now to find a hotel that has non-smoking rooms available...

I'm looking forward to it after waste management! rs&sp's own the rough stuff :D

[Greg Donovan]

waitaminute? i could have sworn it was only 2 stages. are all the NT rallys 2 or 3 stages?

if they are 3 that is an even better deal than 2. that is only 41 dollars a stage if you enter and pay early.

[boomer]

It would appear the Potlatch road is being used. I would assume stage 1 east to the Potlatch road, stage 2 Potlatch road to the usual turn around and then stage 3 will be the westbound route back the start of stage 1.

[carl]

waitaminute? i could have sworn it was only 2 stages. are all the NT rallys 2 or 3 stages?

if they are 3 that is an even better deal than 2. that is only 41 dollars a stage if you enter and pay early.

the # of stages doesn't really matter, it's the mileage that matters. With the 3 stage configuration it is still fairly similar in length to the 2 stage configuration (still two coefficient 1 rallies)

[Greg Donovan]

the # of stages doesn't really matter, it's the mileage that matters. With the 3 stage configuration it is still fairly similar in length to the 2 stage configuration (still two coefficient 1 rallies)

gotchya. either way the NT rallies are a pretty good deal.

i really like the idea of having three stages even if it is the same length as 2 would be. it is almost like having acess to split times on a longer stage so you know where to pick up (or slow) the pace.

[2023maple]

Can someone help me with the name of the hotel just off the highway on the way to Duquette? I know a few teams stayed there for the first event. Decent place?
Thanks,
Bryan

[C_Eixen]

America's Best, Finlayson. http://www.americasbestvalueinn.com/bestv.cfm?idp=1314

But their website said no rooms available...I didn't call to confirm.

[boomer]

If the hotel in Finlayson is full there is a Motel in Sandstone called the 61 motel that should have a room or two. It's cheap but semi decent.

[mayhem83]

So...where's the trash talk anyway? Seeing as I'm on the wrong side of the car, don't piss me off or I'll puke on ya.

[boomer]

You and me both. I'm going to do my best to not make a mess of the Bluck.

[markhuebbe]

I find Chad to be patronizingly haughty. I could say something about his brand preference of volatile flammable liquid hydrocarbon mixture used in his internal combustion engine, but it is not gentlemanly for me to divulge it, since even construction wokers and refuse collection staff would find it repugnant and obscene.

[mayhem83]

And we're back....

[C_Eixen]

I resent the insinuation that there is something amiss in the size of my hydrocarbon chains. I am almost tempted to mention how his peculiarly unpalatable visage has been found so offensive that RA is considering implementing a full-face helmet requirement in the Historic class.

[markhuebbe]

Chad is a very respectable man, but he has no taste, lacks ingenuity, and has a family ancestry populated with persons judged to be medically deranged. Which I suppose confirms his liking of dwarfish, portly women whose resemblance to hideously disfigured farm animals is more than passing, and have the acute mental vision of segmented invertebrates living in my garden soil. ;)

[C_Eixen]

Yeah, your mom is pretty hot.

[johnhuebbe]

Chad, May an outrageous number of gargantuan Scottish co-drivers seek refuge in your hatch-back, all the while coming to terms with their sexuality with your spill kit and fire extinguisher, while you attempt to pass technical inspection this Saturday afternoon!

[P.Johansen]

While I find the Floccinaucinihilipilification of Chad's hydrocarbon chains to be right out proper, I would be woefully hesitant to offer any criticism, whatsoever, when one's vehicle of choice has a fuel dispensation system devised well before humans discovered the world 'twas round, as well as front suspension retrofitted from a epicurean era hand-cart. :D

[2023maple]

Hmmm... this is trash talk? Not sure if Chad should be insulted or not. Did Greenhouse have a scottish co-driver?? His fire extinguisher "popped off" at Gravity Park.
Oh well... See all you guys Saturday.
Cheers,
Bryan Holder
#696

[carl]

And we're back....

but is your car :confused:

[markhuebbe]

but is your car :confused:

Ohhhh.... Carl's on a roll... or is that normal for Carl at Nemadji? :D

[carl]

Ohhhh.... Carl's on a roll... or is that normal for Carl at Nemadji? :D

not trash talking, I heard some rumors that mark and brent's ride had not come back from the mechanic yet

trash talk i got nothing. topor wins, chad and I have the exact same times and then the rest of you slowpokes fill out the rear :D

the real story is whose co-driver barfs first? we've got 858's standage coming off a gravity barfing, we've got round dan who has never co-driven before and then we've got utecht. dave is too old to barf, he has no gastric system, it's all dust

[carl]

oh yea we're thinking of a team challenge. each co-driver gets an etch-a-sketch and an object to draw. Driver has to go smooth enough not to erase their progress. FTC judges each drawing on a 0 to 5 scale. Cumulative high score for NT2a and b wins

[boomer]

Apparantly you have never ridden in the Bluck. I thought it was going to rattle my teeth out on the test drive last night. I'm pretty sure Jim welded the pistons in the coilovers. My etchasketch would be blank for sure.

[carl]

yo bro if you had flat brimmed suspension that wouldn't happen

[boomer]

My money is on Utecht for the first to hurl award.

[carl]

any word on road conditions? especially the spur road if it got drenched today, i know that thing isn't really packed down like the main road

[boomer]

My best guess is washout city. The rocks were pretty bad at checkout for NT1 and I can't imagine it has gotten better.

[mayhem83]

but is your car :confused:

The golf is not done yet but it should be this morning.


My money is on Utecht for the first to hurl award.

Bite me ginger.

Well, it's time to open up on the not-so-cerebral trash talk. All you G2 boys and girls better look out. There's a new sheriff in town. He's got a fast horse, a wicked cool deputy and a case of whoop ass that he plans on opening with his right foot.

You want somma dis? Come getcha sum. We'll serve it up all day.

[D Parps]

It appears that this will be the first Nemadji Trails rally I have missed since their inception. Hope everyone has a great event!
Wish I could be with you,
Dave.

[ErikZ]

Go suck on Nationwide Dave :)

[stick]

The car's back at the Mayhem Ranch and runnin' good (not great, but good).

It's hard to talk smack on my first event, but...

We'll see if I can aim a Rabbit as well as I can shoot Squirrels!
I'm not worried about my Co-Driver telling me to go slower LOL!

[mayhem83]

What Brent didn't know was that when he was typing that, I was putting out the fire that started in the rear bumper. The car had stalled and when I was trying to restart it, there was a mini flamethrower at the tailpipe heating up the bumper cover. About then, the officer walked up to the window and told me I might want to stop doing that. Thanks to quick action, experience putting out fires and ability to smooth talk most law enforcement I was able to get the fire stopped and got off without the tickets I deserved for no seat belts (the belts are adjusted for Brent), no proof of insurance, no driver's license in my possesion and blocking traffic.

When we got the car back to the house, I happened to find the temp sensor wire had fallen off after 20 minutes of other diag work. After reconnecting the wire, we are back to running well.

That's all the news that's fit to print. See you all tomorrow.

[stick]

Yep, Mark lit a fire under it's ass!!


Worked like a charm!

[corymacd]

Brent/Mark and some inspired driving!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R178PoHwdkg

[Greg Donovan]

Brent/Mark and some inspired driving!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R178PoHwdkg

D'oh!

[carl]

well that was fun, i vote for more spur road!

a few memories for me this weekend:

our second car breaking the windscreen on odo cal when the hood popped up
my first ever stage win
my second ever stage win
going from first overall to last overall
mark utecht being a co-driver and having to borrow a pen
the ginger ninja co-driving for the first time and not getting even a bit nauseous
trying to figure out how chad makes the cheddar wagon go so freakin fast (must be all the extra bird feathers inside the engine bay)
plowing off the road at 75mph through some deep underbrush, coming out without hitting anything and then realizing we've lost a sideview mirror, half the rain visor, broke a door handle and cracked the sti ricer wing. close call anyone?
hearing about brent driving a whole stage with the hood up
how does janusz topor keep the inside of his car so clean?
hitting the rock they gave us an emergency instruction to avoid
brotie rally bringing the brolulz to bromadji

[mdhimes]

Sounds like it was an interesting race! Are the results posted or photographed anywhere?

-matt h

[C_Eixen]

I won the first event. :)
For the second event Janusz slowed down on the transit and took the win.

And when I find who grafitti'd my van and car, I'm going to [content deleted to prevent future legal trouble].

[Billy Elliot]

Sounds like it was an interesting race! Are the results posted or photographed anywhere?

-matt h

ditto on wanting to see results

[P.Johansen]

plowing off the road at 75mph through some deep underbrush, coming out without hitting anything and then realizing we've lost a sideview mirror, half the rain visor, broke a door handle and cracked the sti ricer wing. close call anyone?

[/LIST]

Yea, that was a close call! Glad you guys avoided "the big one" all day and could keep competing!

We had a series of uhh... less than optimal situations as well.

1. Running the spur on stock suspension, sans skid plate = disaster. Even driving between 20-30 MPH, swerving around rocks and holes we managed to blow both rear shocks and rip several chunks off our transmission housing.

2. During one of the stages, the dust and sunlight created a near impossible visibility, we carried too much speed over a crest, steering got light and landed kinda funny, which knocked our line off. When there was a brief hole in the dust cloud we discovered we were trying our hardest to turn left on a sweeping right... ditches have excellent stopping power :D

3. For some reason our fuel consumption was astronomically higher than in NT1. Our fuel light came on in SS5, by the final 1/3rd of SS6 it was sputtering around every turn. We took it easy and cruised to the finish in 6th gear. I am really amazed we made it back to MTC.

"fun" stuff.

[markhuebbe]

I've got photos of the results and photos of the culvert and tree we hit. My steering rack is shattered in several pieces, but no tie rods or ball joints are broken. Wow.

[Greg Donovan]

1. Running the spur on stock suspension, sans skid plate = disaster. Even driving between 20-30 MPH, swerving around rocks and holes we managed to blow both rear shocks and rip several chunks off our transmission housing.


"fun" stuff.

what car were you in?

curious to see people in car of the rough stuff on spur.

is it common for it to get that rough? or did the recent rain make it worse?

[carl]

what car were you in?

curious to see people in car of the rough stuff on spur.

is it common for it to get that rough? or did the recent rain make it worse?

it's pretty much always that rough - the first time through it was very wet though which made it worse. I'll have video up sometime tonight or tomorrow. my car on the rs&sp's, fairly fresh soft R203's and the dccd had a big advantage on that road for 2A - that's where I made my time. Once it started drying out Topor and Eixenberger smoked me

[P.Johansen]

what car were you in?



Das Land Shark!

I also forgot to mention that we ripped a hole in the bottom of the car on the spur and started taking in water :eek:

[corymacd]

Ive got the full video from our marshal point (stages 2,3,4,5). Including the Huebbe's first and only run, and again with Brent's hood up driving.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zX7e1EXwG4

[Mark Holden]

The spur road can be brutal. Last year navigating for Amy in car 0, I had my belts less than 100% tight due to the anti-submarine strap placement being, um, "not optimal" Amy was driving at "I have to drive this thing home" conservative speeds, but I was still banging my helmet on the roof pretty much non-stop.

I've driven that road with the Sentra with the AGX and it was less than fun . . .

[johnhuebbe]

There are about 4 or 5 big dips on the spur road that are pretty bad. The rest of the road is fine.

[Mark Holden]

There are about 4 or 5 big dips on the spur road that are pretty bad. The rest of the road is fine.

Considering how short the spur is, the "rest of the road" isn't all that much.

[C_Eixen]

We pogo'd down that road...but I still enjoyed it.

Youtube didn't seem to care for it much, however.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWg0UfiMQH0

[johnhuebbe]

There are quite a few corners on the spur road. And it's so much different than the main road I'd hate to see it be taken out of the future rallies. All it really needs is to be graded in spots. Being narrow and tight is fine.

[johnhuebbe]

Youtube doesn't seem to care for it much, however. (been processing for hours)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWg0UfiMQH0

My stage video is up too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPzggL_b8vk

[tcc]

Nice work Chad and COlin!!!

[Chux]

We pogo'd down that road...but I still enjoyed it.

Youtube didn't seem to care for it much, however.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWg0UfiMQH0

:D love the chuckle after the bird hit.

Good work!

[carl]

so i just started taking my car apart with one of my crew guys... turns out the spur road was so rough that it bent the rear mounting points for the strut tophats in the car and separated the seam a good 1/2". guess it's time to pull the rear windscreen and hammer those back down, do some seam welding and make some reinforcement plates

[carl]

ok so waste management is probably the real culprit by the spur road didn't help any!

[CMXterra]

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Whl9ryMA5-Q/TCGA4auTtjI/AAAAAAAABFU/C7-JmlX9NWk/s912/CMP_0109c.jpg

[CMXterra]

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Whl9ryMA5-Q/TCGA4pJ0FNI/AAAAAAAABFc/VRc4_0ZxbKM/s912/CMP_0131c.jpg

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Whl9ryMA5-Q/TCGA5BVIQPI/AAAAAAAABFk/FHz5bNSfv8o/s912/CMP_0138c.jpg

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_Whl9ryMA5-Q/TCGA_txXW2I/AAAAAAAABFs/_X8aEUJNjNs/s912/CMP_0142c.jpg

[CMXterra]

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Whl9ryMA5-Q/TCGA_mv6VgI/AAAAAAAABFo/wsBm4NwZGUw/CMP_0145c.jpg

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Whl9ryMA5-Q/TCGA4n-2H6I/AAAAAAAABFY/rqcLpx-KGxc/s912/CMP_0106c.jpg

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Whl9ryMA5-Q/TCGA44CQkZI/AAAAAAAABFg/dSWMiwIlv6w/s912/CMP_0134c.jpg

[Chux]

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Whl9ryMA5-Q/TCGA4auTtjI/AAAAAAAABFU/C7-JmlX9NWk/s912/CMP_0109c.jpg

Wow.....



thanks for the tug :D

[CMXterra]

No problem..

Just happy you were able to continue on :)

[carl]

yea we were really just stuck, no functional damage - right side down in the sluff, left side up in the air. If Dave was a lot fatter he could have maybe got the left rear corner down (jumping up and down on it he almost got it to hook up fully - it was starting to grab traction pretty good). Getting creative with the scissor jack might have done it too. Still a fun time, I just need to remember that corner for next time - I think I had problems with it going both directions

[boomer]

See, sometimes having a round codriver can be helpful.

[Scuba Steve]

yea we were really just stuck, no functional damage - right side down in the sluff, left side up in the air. If Dave was a lot fatter he could have maybe got the left rear corner down (jumping up and down on it he almost got it to hook up fully - it was starting to grab traction pretty good). Getting creative with the scissor jack might have done it too. Still a fun time, I just need to remember that corner for next time - I think I had problems with it going both directions

lulz....I wish Jerry got that on camera. I was actually jumping with all my force on top of the trunk of the car. While jumping up and down I was wondering what the hell was going to happen IF we actually got traction.....I was preparing to leap from the car :D

I cannot believe there are no dents in the trunk lid.

You didn't have trouble with that corner on the way down...:)

[carl]

You didn't have trouble with that corner on the way down...:)

not that you're aware of ;) I do remember having a worried feeling on it the first time through because I had way more angle in it than the previous corners

[carl]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw5ftdW0i24

SS1

[Mark Holden]

I found your on-screen cornering force indicators to be distracting, if a bit entertaining.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw5ftdW0i24

SS1

[carl]

I found your on-screen cornering force indicators to be distracting, if a bit entertaining.

it was worse this time because we didn't plug the intercom in (terriblephone stopped working) so it was really swinging around. I plan to mount the peltor replacement somewhere less obnoxious

[Mark Holden]

it was worse this time because we didn't plug the intercom in (terriblephone stopped working) so it was really swinging around. I plan to mount the peltor replacement somewhere less obnoxious

Yeah, put it somewhere one of you can reach easily when belted in too. I just about dislocated my shoulder trying to adjust the Peltor in Amy's Legacy at LSPR.

Torn between ordering a FMT120 right now or waiting to see the results of Lurch's experiment with the Yaesu FTM-10R (Ham radio with an intercom, for not a lot more than just the FMT120). Will probably do the Peltor for simplicity sake and the dual volume controls anyhow.

[carl]

that's why I liked having the terriblephone mounted up at the top of the cage, it was easy to get to the volume controls and the cords hung down where they were quick to grab. I'm going with the fmt120 and I think I'll put it somewhere lower just to keep the cords away from the camera

[mayhem83]

One example of foot cam and one of face cam have been posted from car 583.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvQymrFqiQY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaDX460QRhc

[stick]

One example of foot cam and one of face cam have been posted from car 583.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvQymrFqiQY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaDX460QRhc

Incar of the hood incident also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbEGb5QzYGI

[Mark Holden]

Incar of the hood incident also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbEGb5QzYGI

Is that the top of the strut tower you can see flexing like mad after the hood comes up?

[mayhem83]

What you see is the large capture washer going up and down while the bushing for the top of the strut compresses and releases.

Stage 5 is up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTM3waCrJsQ

[Greg Donovan]

What you see is the large capture washer going up and down while the bushing for the top of the strut compresses and releases.

Stage 5 is up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTM3waCrJsQ

i love watching your incar. i learned how to read tulips from your incar with brenda.