H&N for $724.95! Rally America 2008 Legal - SFI 38.1 Certified [Archive]

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Safe Drives

11-08-2007, 01:53 PM

Comfort and Safety!!!

Safe Drives offers 3 H&N Restraints, at 3 price points that are SFI 38.1 Certified.

These are the safest and most comfortable H&N Restraint Devices that we have ever seen.

All are Rally-America Legal for the 2008 season.

Teresa and I have done a lot of research on this product type and we feel that these are currently the safest H&N Restraint systems on the planet.

$724.95 (http://www.safedrives.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Hutch2&cat=82)
Hutchins II Pro (http://www.safedrives.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Hutch2&cat=82)
http://www.safedrives.com/prodimages/lfttech/hutchens2_sm.jpg (http://www.safedrives.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Hutch2&cat=82)
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$994.95 (http://www.safedrives.com/proddetail.asp?prod=R3headneckrestraint&cat=82)
R3 (http://www.safedrives.com/proddetail.asp?prod=R3headneckrestraint&cat=82)
http://www.safedrives.com/prodimages/lfttech/new_r3_sm.jpg (http://www.safedrives.com/proddetail.asp?prod=R3headneckrestraint&cat=82)
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$1094.95 (http://www.safedrives.com/proddetail.asp?prod=HutchensHybrid&cat=82)
Hutchins Hybrid (http://www.safedrives.com/proddetail.asp?prod=HutchensHybrid&cat=82)
http://www.safedrives.com/prodimages/lfttech/Hutchens_Hybrid_sm.jpg (http://www.safedrives.com/proddetail.asp?prod=HutchensHybrid&cat=82)
Click for details. (http://www.safedrives.com/proddetail.asp?prod=HutchensHybrid&cat=82)

We also offer a "Rent to Own" program for the R3, click here for a Special Stage thread on that. (http://www.specialstage.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29251) :)

Teresa and I have used the R3 for two seasons now in rally and love it. These products are very effective and very comfortable. We'll give you your money back if you don't like it!

Please feel free to post any questions or call me toll free, 877-739-1713.

Thank you for looking at this advert.

We love rally!

turoc

11-08-2007, 01:58 PM

any of these fia certified?

Safe Drives

11-08-2007, 02:02 PM

any of these fia certified?

None of these are FIA Homologated.

The Hutchins Hybrid is currently undergoing the FIA "whatever" for Homologation.

Safe Drives

11-08-2007, 02:05 PM

Also, the Hutchins Hybrid is NASCAR Approved.

Foghorn

11-08-2007, 04:25 PM

Safe Drives

11-08-2007, 05:06 PM

Charles,

I'm curious as to why you selected the R3 as being your personal choice for use over the other two options you sell. Could you please explain your rationale?

Thanks in advance,

Kent Gardam

Hi Kent,

Thank you for asking. That's a good question.

2.5 years ago now, when Teresa and I were first learning about H&N Restraints we found the SFI had just started to offer the 38.1 Standard. At the time only the HANS Device and the R3 were 38.1 certified.

Safe Drives wherever possible, tries to offer only tested and certified safety products.

After learning about the two devices it became clear to us that the R3 was a far safer product than the competitors product. Especially for rally cars where we deal with higher rate of angular impacts.

Currently, the Hybrid appears to have better test numbers than the R3 due to the fact that it has two load paths for energy dispersion. I'll be upgrading to the Hybrid in 2008. Teresa on the other hand loves her R3 and will not upgrade, I can't talk her out of it. :)

In 2007 I used the R3 "In Seat" version. It was pretty cool since you just leave it in the driver seat. You get in, buckle up and attach the H&N Restraint before the stage start.

I hope this helps!

Discussion = Good! :)

Rallycat66

11-09-2007, 07:17 AM

In 2007 I used the R3 "In Seat" version. It was pretty cool since you just leave it in the driver seat. You get in, buckle up and attach the H&N Restraint before the stage start.

Question... How does the "in-seat" version work? Specifically with regards to not violating the single point of release requirements.

Just curious...

Thanks...

Tim

Safe Drives

11-09-2007, 09:49 AM

Question... How does the "in-seat" version work? Specifically with regards to not violating the single point of release requirements.

Just curious...

Thanks...

Tim

Thank you for your question.

The standard R3 is pictured above, it has a chest strap and you wear the device like a little carbon fiber back pack. The in seat R3 connects to your camlock instead of the chest strap. When you open the camlock, you open the R3. The R3 stays "Velcro-d" to the seat / seat pad most of the time but in an emergency the unit would come out of the car with you (attached at your helmet). Still all SFI 38.1 Tested and Certified.

In seat = No chest strap, R3 connects at camlock (or L&L), R3 stays Velcro-d to seat back.

:) :)

Foghorn

11-09-2007, 09:58 AM

The in seat R3 connects to your camlock instead of the chest strap. When you open the camlock, you open the R3. The R3 stays "Velcro-d" to the seat / seat pad most of the time

In seat = No chest strap, R3 connects at camlock (or L&L), R3 stays Velcro-d to seat back.

:) :)

Charles,

Any pictures? I'm not clear on how the "in-seat" would attach to an existing seatbelt camlock since they don't have any extra slots.

Kent Gardam

Jgardhouse

11-09-2007, 11:50 AM

... Or how you disconnect the helmet from device, inside the rules?

nevermind, i get it, the device comes off the seat in an emergency, and trails behind your head, via the tethers so it can get caught on somthing on the way out (like every other device) :P

Safe Drives

11-09-2007, 12:01 PM

Charles,

Any pictures? I'm not clear on how the "in-seat" would attach to an existing seatbelt camlock since they don't have any extra slots.

Kent Gardam

Hi Kent,

I can't find a image of that. Basically what you have is a "D Ring" that you loop your lapbelt camlock connector through right where it connects to the camlock.

... Or how you disconnect the helmet from device, inside the rules?

nevermind, i get it, the device comes off the seat in an emergency, and trails behind your head, via the tethers so it can get caught on somthing on the way out (like every other device) :P

Yes but the units we offer all include the quick release parts where our competitions device you pay extra.

Also, our devices don't have a large "hook" sticking up the back of the head past the neck area like the competitions device does.

JeremyN

11-18-2007, 03:45 PM

On the R3 what is your recommended "style" for rally? I see there is an 80deg - 90deg and a 65deg - 80deg. I pretty sure my set is in the 80 deg range.

Thanks
Jeremy

Safe Drives

11-19-2007, 10:29 AM

On the R3 what is your recommended "style" for rally? I see there is an 80deg - 90deg and a 65deg - 80deg. I pretty sure my set is in the 80 deg range.

Thanks
Jeremy

Hi Jeremy,

Thank you for your question.

Every car, seat and mounting position combination is unique.

I can report that with my Sparco Evo seat I have used the 65 - 80 degree version of the R3 and it is very comfortable. This is what I tend to sell to folks that use a FIA Homologated race seat.

Safe Drives

01-02-2008, 10:43 AM

Happy New Year!!!

mellow65

01-07-2008, 10:38 AM

Safe Drives

01-07-2008, 11:18 AM

what are our options for installing the rings to the helmets? When I got my G-Force full face helmet it appears to already have some threaded holes for the rings to the helmet. But on my codrivers open face helmet it doesn't have those holes. It's a little scary thinking of just taking a drill bit to his helmet. So that's why I ask what are the options? Are we allowed to do the mounting or does this need to be done by someone else?

Your device should have come with detailed instructions for the D Ring Kit installation.

You can drill your own helmet, just follow the instructions. :) Give me a call if you still are having trouble.