G2 at Snodrift

[Evan Moen]

So we had a huge G2 field at LSPR this year. What's everyone's plan for Snodrift?
Sanfords
Koll/?
Moen/? (looking for another co-driver, again!)
Is there a pot like LSPR? I know I'm in for some beer, since I flaked on the deal at LSPR.
http://www.rally-america.com/event.SnoDrift.2007.php?section=entry_list
06 points
1 Matt Bushore Hamburg, MI 277 Detail
2 Paul Koll Hancock, MI 212 Detail
3 Brian Dondlinger Bayside, WI 174 Detail
4 Evan Moen Clarkston, MI 150 Detail
5 Justin Pritchard Granville, OH 104 Detail

[bentmettle]

I'll most likely be sitting it out and avoiding trying to walk on ice unless I get cleared by my doctor Jan 5th.

[C_Eixen]

I'll most likely be sitting it out and avoiding trying to walk on ice unless I get cleared by my doctor Jan 5th.

You going to rent the Jetta?

I'm out...car won't be ready by then...and it's a lot of money to drive on icy roads w/ studless tires.

[Carl S]

Studs are for weeemps!
I wont be driving SD this year though :( hopefully codriving if someone wants me.

[Evan Moen]

Studs are for weeemps!

Yea.
I just thought we needed to discuss something a bit more positive than selling/parting out rally cars, getting out of the sport, and NASA/RA. Is there a renewed interest in G2? I had a blast racing you maniacs this year! I've heard more than a few teams are building strong 2wd cars for 07'. On another front, Larry and I looked at a Jackson supercharged Honda hatch with a B16 and trans. from a Civic Si with a quaife. Ratty street car, but would be a killer 2wd rally car. Cars on the east side of the D.

[C_Eixen]

Studs are for weeemps!

Oh, I disagree...

http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/11/31915380818.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4006448)

[BenSlocum]

I wish I was. Tons of fun at LSPR.

[bentmettle]

You going to rent the Jetta?

I'm out...car won't be ready by then...and it's a lot of money to drive on icy roads w/ studless tires.

It's a good event.
Finishing really means something.

The lack of studs isn't that big of deal.

We've ran twice. Finished for the first time last year.

I am working on figuring out how much the ol' Jetta would be worth rental wise and being able to provide at event support.

[2023maple]

I won't be running the Neon. Signed up to work instead and the new suspension is on some slow boat, probably scheduled to be here 2 days before Shooting Star :)

See you at the start controls,
Bryan Holder
#696 G2

[Eric Burmeister]

Most likely not running.

[RallyHippy]

I dont like all this negative talk here! I hope it is only due to the recent cold spell and some angziety (wow that is wrong) about the up coming holiday. Barefoot will be running but some issues are still being discusses. I have two growlers of KBC beer to each regional race! That is if we dont crash and drink em, sorry to the winners if that happens, ;)
Paul
744

[Evan Moen]

I dont like all this negative talk here! ... I have two growlers of KBC beer to each regional race! That is if we dont crash and drink em, sorry to the winners if that happens, ;)
Paul
744

That's the spirit. Sixer of Bells to each G2 div. weiner on my side. So growler and a Sixer for each win, anything else? Nowbody is interested in the stage prizes $ they gave last year? We won $200 cash last year, that's pretty good nowadays...

[Foghorn]

I'll be codriving for Ray Foulkrod in the first outing for and the shakedown of his G2 911 (and his first time back rally driving after about twenty years). We are entered in the national instead of the regionals but with rear-engine-rear-wheel-drive will be real happy just to try to get close to the stage times of you guys. I suspect I can bring along some sort of alcoholic antifreeze to sweeten the regional pot. Maybe some Carib or Red Stripe so we can pretend we are down in the islands where it's warm.

Kent Gardam

[Evan Moen]

We are entered in the national instead of the regionals but with rear-engine-rear-wheel-drive will be real happy just to try to get close to the stage times of you guys. I suspect I can bring along some sort of alcoholic antifreeze to sweeten the regional pot. Maybe some Carib or Red Stripe so we can pretend we are down in the islands where it's warm.
Kent Gardam

I have no problem adding Ray/Kent's times into the regionals, anyone else object? Heh, if your willing to fuel the pot!

[darkknight9]

Red Stripe?

BOOOO lack of participants!
HOOOORAY beer!!!

lol

[mykr]

We'll be there. We won't be a threat to anyone but ourselves but we'll be there... :D

[tcc]

If any of you G2 guys needs a codrive let me know. I'm quasi-ride shopping.

[D Parps]

Sorry Guys, I'll be riding in Erik Zenz's Open class Mazda 323 GTX at Sno*Drift so I won't be able to battle you directly, but I'll bring a 6-pack of Milw. Sprecher for the G2 winner to pay back Mr. Moen for his generousity at LSPR.
Btw, Evan, that was a great battle on Sat. afternoon at LSPR! Brian and I look forward to battling you again next year- maybe 100AW?
Dave Parps
Co-Driver- Car#'s 562 and 646.

[Evan Moen]

Sorry Guys, I'll be riding in Erik Zenz's Open class Mazda 323 GTX at Sno*Drift so I won't be able to battle you directly, but I'll bring a 6-pack of Milw. Sprecher for the G2 winner to pay back Mr. Moen for his generousity at LSPR.
Btw, Evan, that was a great battle on Sat. afternoon at LSPR! Brian and I look forward to battling you again next year- maybe 100AW?
Dave Parps
Co-Driver- Car#'s 562 and 646.

Dave, you needed a few beers after that fiasco in copper harbor, eh?
Good times. I'm running snodrift (still looking for co-d), but after that it's either going to be a jackson supercharger G5 and STPR divisonals, or as-is G2 100AW. Thought about running nationals, G2, but still can't justify it.....is there any reason to run a 2wd nationally? Though I keep hearing that there's going to be a bunch of National G2 cars running this year.....The auto industry is dicey right now, can't justify any more than 3-4 events/year.

E

[Brian Dondlinger]

Evan,

I will be at S*D in some capacity, TBD. Spectating, crewing, or maybe renting the car. I likewise have to pick and choose rallys, and will be at 100AW for sure.

Thanks,
Brian Dondlinger

P.S. Sprecher beer takes all comers and lays waste to them! Milwaukee is the home of beer!

[Michael Merbach]

As we are moving to G2 I feel compelled to report that we are skipping SD but it is the best event going as far as competitor recognition.

The Gene henderson Memorial stage $$$$, The parps Greer deal...$tires$ all have left a lasting mark in my mind in regards to support.

Thanks Dave,
Thanks Henderson Family

Mike Merbach car number 98

[freightdog]

I'll be there. running ex-Boullion Neon #319. Just off Novice status, and hopefully just off "overheating status" too which is what hurt us so bad at LSPR. After new HG, replacement Cyl head, new radiator hoses, H20 pump, auxilary H20 temp gauge, etc. preliminary off-season tests have shown no overheating tendencies. I'm probably not going to set the world on fire (yet) but I hope to show marked improvement.

also looking to see Chad E and Jay L back soon (100 AW maybe?). I think we can have some good races in the future.

A big belated thanx to Matt "Mothra" Smith for hangin' in there at West Virginia this summer under difficult conditions and Don DeRose for keeping me on track @ OFR. Not to mention Syncronaut for the best damn generator rental period.

Props to Bryan H & The Boullion Bros. for tech support on neons and especially my crew Matt Nichols, Terry Wylie and Phil "Weasel" Marsh too

Chris Greenhouse
&
Chris Stark
#319

[tcc]

also looking to see Chad E and Jay L back soon (100 AW maybe?). I think we can have some good races in the future.


Hope so too. CHad is planning on 100aw and although I'm not 100% yet if it doesn't snow in northerin wisconsin my committment to do the Birkiebeiner (www.birkie.com) could fall though and I could be there.

Jay

[aboullion]

Hopefully the car will be in a competitive position by then. We are having a lot of growing pains in the new focus. But hopefully they are about over if such a thing exists.
See ya there
Adam

[Carl S]

I'm in. Sitting shotty for Paul Koll!

[BenSlocum]

I'm in. Sitting shotty for Paul Koll!

Make sure the car the works! ;)

[RallyHippy]

Oh 744 is on its way! New brake caliper and master cyliner and we are ready. Carl, me an you better go out and do some testing next week just to make sure, ehh.

[BenSlocum]

Oh 744 is on its way! New brake caliper and master cyliner and we are ready. Carl, me an you better go out and do some testing next week just to make sure, ehh.

Aww yeah, it goes and stops!!!! G2 field watch out.

[comicozzie]

I'll most likely be sitting it out and avoiding trying to walk on ice unless I get cleared by my doctor Jan 5th.

True story. I had this bizzare dream a few weeks back where I actually decided to go to S*D this year. (I must not have had a wife in college or had kids in the dream.) Anyway, I decided to shoot video as opposed to still photography. I'm on the outside of a 90-right intersection and Matt comes though the corner with a silver and yellow Eclipse on his tail. On the next straightaway the Eclipse tries to pass on the right and accidentally clips the Jetta's right-rear. He stuffs it and the Jetta rolls twice with and endo to boot. The ensuing dust cloud makes it impossible for a rookie in a new blue WRX to see and *pow* the Jetta gets hammered. I caught the whole thing for ESPN2 and remembered saying "HOLY S**T" when it happened. I'd consider it a good thing you're sitting this one out as I've had premonition dreams in the past.

Jerry

P.S. Dammit, I wish I was going!

[Evan Moen]

All right gents, were about to get this party rolling!
Everyone still in? I'd let Duplessis in, but I heard he was only 20years old, so who would drink the beer he'd win?

Good field! 10 G2's and 1 National G2.

Dave Parps O 1988 Mazda 323 (team Sprecher)
Evan Moen / Daniel Victor G2 2000 Acura Integra Type R (team Bells)
Paul Koll / Carl Seidel G2 1987 VW Golf GTI (team KBC)
Joel Sanford / Scott Sanford G2 1989 Chevrolet Cavalier
Adam Boullion / Philip Boullion G2 2000 Ford Focus
Chris Greenhouse / Chris Stark G2 1995 Plymouth Neon ACR
Miles Bothee / Christopher Gordon G2 1990 VW Jetta GLI
Benjamin Slocum PGT 2002 Subaru Impreza WRX
Brett Fairbanks / David Bruce G2 1985 Volkswagen Golf GTI
Kent Gardam G2 1973 Porsche 911 (team Red Stripe)
Thomas Diehl / Mike Rodriquez G2 1994 Ford Probe GT
Roman Pakos / Dariusz Belzowski G2

[Foghorn]

Two twelves of Red Stripe are already in my car ready for the trip north. They keep making that distinctive glass bottle full of beer clanking sound that is music to the ears. With luck most of them should make it to the rally before they get emptied!

By about this time the 911 may have already found it's way to Lewiston. You should list our entry under Ray Foulkrod, not me. I'm just the ballast along for the ride.

Kent Gardam

[RallyHippy]

Wow Comicozzie, that got a little intense! Good thing Matt is holding out on this one.
As for the rest of the G2ers lets get it on!
Hippy

PS I will find a good home for Duplessis' winnings if they want to enter... ;)

[BenSlocum]

Unfortunatly my 6er of Bells Winter White will be making it to the hands of the National PGT victor. But I've got a pirate full-o-rum to share a few shots with G2 winners.

[Evan Moen]

Unfortunatly my 6er of Bells Winter White will be making it to the hands of the National PGT victor. But I've got a pirate full-o-rum to share a few shots with G2 winners.

As if NAT PGT need any more contigency!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let's get in on. I love this race, totally seperates the men for the boys. Such a mind game, you want to go fast (and you are!), but it's so easy to make a 8+minute mistake.......

[bentmettle]

The mighty Jetta has begun to invade people's dream state..... I don't know if this is good or bad.

My PT has been going well. If I can get my car fixed up, I'm looking forward to going to Missouri. I still can't decide if I'm going to come to SD and walk around rubbing my chin and acting guruish.

[Mad Mike]

As if NAT PGT need any more contigency!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let's get in on. I love this race, totally seperates the men for the boys. Such a mind game, you want to go fast (and you are!), but it's so easy to make a 8+minute mistake.......
No S#!t on BOTH points!

Ben, buddy, brother, pal, where's the 2WD love, man? :D

So far as 8+ minute mistakes are concerned, I think there is no better example of how the tortoise can vanquish the hares at S*D than Kala Rounds and my G5 run in the Production-spec StudBug in 2005. A heavy, underpowered, outclassed, P-car driven by a southerner who hadn't rallied on snow since 1978 with a new (to him) codriver who (like him) had never been to SNO*DRIFT before managed two second place Regional finishes because we adopted and adhered to the strategy of finding all the FTCs without digging out of ANY snowbanks. While the Hakka 9s emperiled that plan more than I knew they could, we somehow made it through without carrying a shovel and even had the tow rope stowed like normally. Trick ios, we outran NO ONE - but we fiished ahead of a lot of teams who struck trouble.

Good luck to all the 2WD teams!!!

[Eric Burmeister]

$50 to the top 2wd team from Burmeister Rallysport.

I don't care what class yer in. You can only put down about 32 horsepower anyway.

[BenSlocum]

Ben, buddy, brother, pal, where's the 2WD love, man? :D



Mike, your right, a shot-o-rum for all G2 finishers, just look for the pirate. Mike, your going to need to stop by and make sure it passes a stewards judgment.

[RallyHippy]

Oh man last time there was this much booze at an event Ben and I spectated... I am willing to drive that rum through 'tech' as long as mike is inspecting.

[BenSlocum]

Oh man last time there was this much booze at an event Ben and I spectated... I am willing to drive that rum through 'tech' as long as mike is inspecting.

Now how come I don't remember that night to well?

[Mad Mike]

Oh man last time there was this much booze at an event Ben and I spectated... I am willing to drive that rum through 'tech' as long as mike is inspecting.


Now how come I don't remember that night to well?

You two are such a bad influence ...

FWIW, I'm pretty sure it was MN - Although it could have been MI

Or MT

Or MO

for all I know ...

Who the hell brought the HARD booze into that free-for-all anyway?!? ;)

[BenSlocum]

I feel it's best not to comment ;)

[Evan Moen]

$50 to the top 2wd team from Burmeister Rallysport.

I don't care what class yer in. You can only put down about 32 horsepower anyway.

Nationals and both divisionals or on time?
That's good loot.

[Eric Burmeister]

Nationals or both divs.

I don't care how much money you paid...you are running the same race.

[C_Eixen]

G2 is definitely up for grabs.

Looking at updates and the times it seems Koll (SS2), Greenhouse (SS3), and Moen (SS6) have all had encounters with snowbanks.

Duplessis looks to be solidly in the lead...assuming they can keep it on the road.

[BenSlocum]

After our nasty off it made more sense for me to head home and sleep off the night than heading to the after party. I sent the booty to the awards with another party so I'm just hoping it made it there. Congrats to all finishers, I wish we could have made it with you.

[Evan Moen]

I sent the booty to the awards with another party so I'm just hoping it made it there. Congrats to all finishers, I wish we could have made it with you.

Paul tried to give me your loot...Slocum, your a crazy man.
As for Chris, awesome drive. My appologies for not having my loot at the awards, but the crew had it in Lewiston, so I'll owe you (or your crew) 12 at the next one. I had to guard that damn beer with my life. My crew was salivating like dogs over it! And in the end they drank it anyway!

All I can say is wow, good times. Paul had some great times. Overall, the 2wd racing is more fun than ever.

[Bruce]

When we (000) went into stage 8 on Saturday morning, it had several inches of almost unbroken snow, covering one of the nastiest, roughest stages I've been on. My Cherokee with Hakkas handled it fairly well...but my hat's off to any 2WD car that ran that stage successfully at speed.

With the possible exception of tires, Sno*Drift is not about machinery, it's about drivers. And codrivers, too...it can't be easy calling turns with no visual contrast and (put very mildly) inconsistent grip.

Good job, guys.

Bruce
"000b"

[Eric Burmeister]

Congrats Mr. Duplessis. Don't spend it all in one place. :D

[Carl S]

Congrats Mr. Duplessis. Don't spend it all in one place. :D
You could also say, dont drink it all at one time. :)

[Rallycat66]

You could also say, dont drink it all at one time. :)

Or "don't drink it at all!!!" Chris is not of legal drinking age yet. :eek:

Tim

[Foghorn]

After our nasty off it made more sense for me to head home and sleep off the night than heading to the after party. I sent the booty to the awards with another party so I'm just hoping it made it there. Congrats to all finishers, I wish we could have made it with you.

Same for me. It appears we probably holed a piston Friday in the 911 and lost our oil pressure so we were done at the ATC of stage 4. I gave the Red Stripe to Mary Shiloff at the MTC in Lewiston and she said she would bring it to the awards. However, Mad Mike was there too and appeared to be drooling, so hopefully you guys got it.

Kent Gardam

[Protege Menace]

After our nasty off it made more sense for me to head home and sleep off the night than heading to the after party. I sent the booty to the awards with another party so I'm just hoping it made it there. Congrats to all finishers, I wish we could have made it with you.


yup, kelly gave the beer to whoever it won, there werent many g2 guys at the party we knew, so we decided paul was the best person to receive and divy up the bottle.

[BenSlocum]

Letting paul divy up a bottle might not have been the best choice. Is he still alive? I'm sure his post bottle condition was damn near, if not worse, than mine post tree.

[RallyHippy]

I had a little bit... Tried to give out some of the 'contribution' but most of the g2ers were gone or not sure if they really needed any. So, I had a little more, and sent the rest with the Duplisess team for inspection. If figured it was not in my best interest (liver's best interest) to hold on to a whole bottle of rum. Now that I am wrighting this, was the bottle ever inspected by stuard Mike Haley?

[bentmettle]

once again, I am going to have to appear at a rally and show you kids "how it's done". These post event fiascos can not continue. We must have proper distribution.

Keep in mind what happened last time I had to demonstrate "how it's done"....

[tcc]

Next time just send the codriver off the jump, Matt. Duh.

[bentmettle]

Co-driver?

There's no place to velcro a marker anywhere on most scooters, much less a map light, those post-it tabs, or highlighters. One good spill and it'll look like a friggin' Office Max exploded all over the parking lot.....

[Mad Mike]

Now that I am writing this, was the bottle ever inspected by steward Mike Halley?
No. Not knowing Slocum had tucked tail an split I was looking for him AND the TV2GO guys as soon as the results were official. Not knowing who it was that became the rum caretaker I just ambled off with the RA crowd and killed off a few synapses with many glasses of something called Bare Nuckle Stout. It ain't Guinness, but it ain't a bad stand in!

[BenSlocum]

Tucked tail? Did you SEE the car? I was in pain, drowning out that pain with feel good juice was probably a good idea though :)

[Mad Mike]

Tucked tail? Did you SEE the car? I was in pain, drowning out that pain with feel good juice was probably a good idea though :)

The only truly wrecked car I saw was on a trailer headed toward the High School while I was headed elsewhere but the car was so covered with gook I wasn't sure what the heck it was. I know the left front corner of the car was displaced lots closer to the firewall than one would like. Was that your ride?

[BenSlocum]

Unfortunatly that sounds about right. It wasn't to fun, but that's Rallye. Next time I think I'm going to try the grog end instead of sleep for recovery. I'm a wuss, it's true.