Club rally-West Michigan

[jimmy]

I am soliciting your thoughts (both competitors and workers).

For a 2003 (and beyond) event (Club ONLY - it will NEVER be a national):

- WHEN would you like it to happen, and WHY?
- How far (time) from other events?
- What events do you view as conflicts (Cog, Canadian, others)?
- What coefficient do you prefer?
- ANY other thoughts, comments, suggestions (either here or privately).

press on,
chairman in training, jimbrandt@voyager.net

[mayhem83]

> - WHEN would you like it to happen, and WHY?

Some time in March or April (Feb is 100AW, May is Headwaters) to fit into the hole in the National series. Please don't have it June through October.

> - How far (time) from other events?

Three weeks either way would be a minimum.

> - What events do you view as conflicts (Cog, Canadian,
>others)?

Any events within a thousand miles.

> - What coefficient do you prefer?

At least a C2

> - ANY other thoughts, comments, suggestions (either here or
>privately).

Thanks Jimmy!

Mark

[jblewis]

Give the Prochaskas a call! I'm sure they'd come!!

JBLewis

[JB Niday]

I agree with most of Utecht's will a couple of additions:

I will drive MUCH further for a coef 3 or two coef 2's than for a coef 2.

Mid March to Mid April is a nice slot.

J.B. Niday
www.nidayrallysport.com

[Davenport576]

Jimmy, If you could do something in late June or early july. Maybe in March or April. I could also see something in early DEc. I know that some of these months there may be a conflict with tourist.
I think that three weeks between events would be good. A coef 3 or, if it can be done, 2 coef 2's would be great!
Thanks for your help. Doug

[rallyfreak]

I'd really like an event either in the March-April time frame, or the late June/July timeframe. Being a club rally only competitor, I see a big gap between Headwaters and the club rallies at Ojibwe.

Potential conflicts would be some of the Canadian events, like Black Bear or Swift Rapids (if that happens next year).

3 weeks from other US events would be nice.

Coefficient 3 or two coefficient 2's - the more miles the better.

I wish you the best of luck with your endevour, I hope you can pull something together for this year, it would make my rally schedule a whole lot nicer!

[Brian Scott]

50 stage miles or more on a single day format is what I'd prefer.

When, NOT in May and Mid-June seems tight also.

March or April would fill a calendar void but really, if you run it and it's not snowing......I might have to bring a rally car out.

Brian "What is a mile? Shouldn't this be in Km's?"

[SMS Rallysport]

I'd like June or July, but March/April is cool also. Being ClubRally only, there's a big gap after HW til another CenDiv event (my reasoning behind June/July). That is unless Arkansaw is back next year...we'll see.

Thanks Jimmy!!!

[Flyboy]

I say Sept. and alternate with Magnum Opus. Every other year we have a big gap between OFPR and LSPR, and Sept in the Midwest is the absolute best time to be in the woods. Cool, but not cold, relatively dry, but not dusty, less bugs, etc...

Of course I'd love a C3, but a long C2 may make the tow worth it, especially if there are many different stages.

But regardless of when it is, and how long it is, just make damn sure IT IS! We need more clubrallies!!


Dennis Martin
demartin@gbonline.com
920-432-4845

[Ray]

>I am soliciting your thoughts (both competitors and
>workers).
>
>For a 2003 (and beyond) event (Club ONLY - it will NEVER be
>a national):
>
> - WHEN would you like it to happen, and WHY?
I have to agree with Mark.
> - How far (time) from other events?
3 weeks is a good time span, but sometimes not possible.
> - What events do you view as conflicts (Cog, Canadian,
>others)?
If it would be in the suggested time, that wouldn't be a problem.
> - What coefficient do you prefer?
C3 would be great.
> - ANY other thoughts, comments, suggestions (either here or
>privately).
Super Specials could be great fun.
>
> press on,
> chairman in training, jimbrandt@voyager.net
>

Whiplash RallyeSport

[Adrian Wintle]

>I'd like June or July, but March/April is cool also. Being
>ClubRally only, there's a big gap after HW til another
>CenDiv event (my reasoning behind June/July). That is
>unless Arkansaw is back next year...we'll see.

You might find that March/April has the same sort of problems that seem to prevent a lot of 'northern' rallies from running in that time period - the roads haven't hardened up after the thaw. This is the primary reason that there is very little rally activity in Ontario during that time (saves on the road repair costs). This may or may not be a concern depending on the type of roads and the road use permits.

Good luck Jimmy. Be prepared to learn more than you ever wanted to know about organizing rallies (I know I did).

Adrian

[MDBodnar]

"If you build it they will come"

Lots of good ideas for dates, anytime of year works for me. Alternating with Magnum could work well.

Good Luck!
Mike

[Bruce]

My personal favorite would be September...making sure to be off the Cog date if possible...mostly to be sure it happens in 2003. If every other year works, alternating with Magnum would be great...but think about the possibility of moving to another date, so it can run every year.

Bruce

[Kim 100AW]

Jimmy you've BLOWN it! You've put it out for public discussion. Everybody KNOWS that's not how you're supposed to do it in SCCA!

But seriously, you will not be able to please all inputters....plant your flag and go. We'll be there!

Go C(3) 60+ miler...it's just not that much tougher than a C(2)

Kim DeMotte
Official Old Fart, etc.

[MDBodnar]

My opinion with regard to Overall Mileage:

It is dependant on three things:

1) Individual Stage Lengths: If you have 3 stage roads each 10+ miles long (6+ stages), it makes it real easy to put together enough mileage for a C3.

2) Workers: If you have an unlimited source of workers, you can put on any length rally with any length stages.

3) Time: a C3 need only take roughly 2.5 hours: one 65 mile stage with 70 cars (do you get a gas stop?). Or with the limitations of stage length, transit distances, a service stop and stage crew movements you could easily stretch a C3 over 12 hours.

"If you build it they will come" Just build something you are comfortable with, and then add on if you can or want.

I can't wait!
Mike

[Bruce]

>3) Time: a C3 need only take roughly 2.5 hours: one 65 mile
>stage with 70 cars (do you get a gas stop?). Or with the
>limitations of stage length, transit distances, a service
>stop and stage crew movements you could easily stretch a C3
>over 12 hours.

Mike, please tell them you know that one 65-mile stage would require a sanctioned exception to the rules...:P

>
>"If you build it they will come" Just build something you
>are comfortable with, and then add on if you can or want.

This is probably the best advice...

Bruce

[MDBodnar]

Rules, we have rules? ;)